alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3

Wed May 20 17:55:17 EDT 2015

Alice 2 and Alice 3 are completely independent of each other…

For the systems running OS X 10.7 you may need to install an older version of Java for the Mac… 

See this link: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?locale=en_US

Keep us posted…

All the best,
Don Slater


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> From: Heidi Kunselman <hkunselman at d92.org>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3
> Date: May 20, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM EDT
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> 
> 
> The students computers are using 3.2.5 and that is where the billboard is causing the issue.  Alice 2.2 is on the same computer and the billboards are working in that version.
> My laptop has both of the same versions loaded and I have not had the problem the students are having with the billboards. 
> 
> Does Alice 3 share files with Alice  2?  If so, why would I have an issue on one system and not the other if we are running the same Alice versions and  the same java? The only difference is the operating system the students have IOS 10.7.5 and I have 10.9. Would the operating systems cause this issue? 
> 
> Heidi
> 
> 
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Reply-To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM
> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3
> 
> Heidi,
> It looks like you are using an older version of Alice (2.04 ?) If this is true, would you download the latest version of Alice 2 available at http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/download_alice2.4 <http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/download_alice2.4> (2.4.2), try it, and let us know if you continue to have problems…
> 
> Thank you,
> Don Slater
> 
>> On May 20, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Heidi Kunselman <hkunselman at d92.org <mailto:hkunselman at d92.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don
>> We tried 3 different pictures with different resolutions and smaller file sizes thinking that could be causing the problem. We still got the same result. We even changed the resolution on their monitors to see if that helps. Still not working. Any other suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Heidi
>> 
>> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> Reply-To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 2:29 PM
>> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> Cc: Dennis Cosgrove <dennis.cosgrove at gmail.com <mailto:dennis.cosgrove at gmail.com>>, Dave Culyba <dculyba at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dculyba at andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3
>> 
>> I assume when you dragged the billboard into the scene, you were allowed to choose the image you imported from the frontPaint properties menu (see attached screenshot)? And that you set the back paint property  to some color?
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>> What was the resolution of the images you imported (you see that mine in the screen shot is 1363 X 828. I have had this issue with some images with too high a resolution, and they would appear on some machines, but not on others, depending on monitor settings.
>> 
>> Just a thought…
>> 
>> Don Slater
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>> <billboardDialog.png> 
>>> On May 19, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Heidi Kunselman <hkunselman at d92.org <mailto:hkunselman at d92.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This happened using the resource manager and just dragging the billboard into the scene. We tried both png and jpg. We also tried different photos and a smaller file size.
>>> Im baffled. Were are running Alice 2 in my other classes on the same machine , under different logins, and we have not had a problem loading the billboards in that version .
>>> 
>>> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>>
>>> Reply-To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 12:42 PM
>>> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>>> Cc: Dennis Cosgrove <dennis.cosgrove at gmail.com <mailto:dennis.cosgrove at gmail.com>>, Dave Culyba <dculyba at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dculyba at andrew.cmu.edu>>
>>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3
>>> 
>>> Does he have problems with any image file, or just this particular file? What format is the image file?
>>> 
>>> What happens when he tries to import the image directly as he builds the billboard, instead of using the resource manager?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Don Slater
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Heidi Kunselman <hkunselman at d92.org <mailto:hkunselman at d92.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello, 
>>>> 
>>>> We are having an issue with our billboards. When a student of mine tried to import a billboard image through the resource manager he is getting a blank billboard and it is also changing the ground color to a solid color. We are using Alice 3.2.5. They are running IOS 10.7.5  on mac desktops. 
>>>> 
>>>> I tried the same file on my mac laptop and everything worked as it should. I am running iOS 10.9. Both machines have Java 8 version 31.
>>>> 
>>>>  Is this a known problem with that operating system? Any other suggestions? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Heidi Kunselman
>>>> Technology Teacher 
>>>> Oak Prairie Junior High
>>>> 
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