<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Alice 2 and Alice 3 are completely independent of each other…<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For the systems running OS X 10.7 you may need to install an older version of Java for the Mac… </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See this link: <a href="https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?locale=en_US" class="">https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?locale=en_US</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Keep us posted…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Heidi Kunselman <<a href="mailto:hkunselman@d92.org" class="">hkunselman@d92.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">May 20, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM EDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Alice educators <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">The students computers are using 3.2.5 and that is where the billboard is causing the issue. Alice 2.2 is on the same computer and the billboards are working in that version.</div><div class="">My laptop has both of the same versions loaded and I have not had the problem the students are having with the billboards. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does Alice 3 share files with Alice 2? If so, why would I have an issue on one system and not the other if we are running the same Alice versions and the same java? The only difference is the operating system the students have IOS 10.7.5 and I have 10.9. Would the operating systems cause this issue? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Heidi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span> Don Slater <<a href="mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dslater@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Reply-To: </span> Alice educators <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span> Alice Teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span> Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Heidi,<div class="">It looks like you are using an older version of Alice (2.04 ?) If this is true, would you download the latest version of Alice 2 available at <a href="http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/download_alice2.4" class="">http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/download_alice2.4</a> (2.4.2), try it, and let us know if you continue to have problems…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you,</div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 20, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Heidi Kunselman <<a href="mailto:hkunselman@d92.org" class="">hkunselman@d92.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Don</div><div class="">We tried 3 different pictures with different resolutions and smaller file sizes thinking that could be causing the problem. We still got the same result. We even changed the resolution on their monitors to see if that helps. Still not working. Any other suggestions?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Heidi</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span> Don Slater <<a href="mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dslater@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Reply-To: </span> Alice educators <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span> Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 2:29 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span> Alice Teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span> Dennis Cosgrove <<a href="mailto:dennis.cosgrove@gmail.com" class="">dennis.cosgrove@gmail.com</a>>, Dave Culyba <<a href="mailto:dculyba@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dculyba@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span> Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I assume when you dragged the billboard into the scene, you were allowed to choose the image you imported from the frontPaint properties menu (see attached screenshot)? And that you set the back paint property to some color?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What was the resolution of the images you imported (you see that mine in the screen shot is 1363 X 828. I have had this issue with some images with too high a resolution, and they would appear on some machines, but not on others, depending on monitor settings.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just a thought…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:6B96514F-B719-40F6-B40F-6E462D3FAA98@wv.cc.cmu.edu" class=""><billboardDialog.png></span> <br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 19, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Heidi Kunselman <<a href="mailto:hkunselman@d92.org" class="">hkunselman@d92.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">This happened using the resource manager and just dragging the billboard into the scene. We tried both png and jpg. We also tried different photos and a smaller file size.</div><div class="">Im baffled. Were are running Alice 2 in my other classes on the same machine , under different logins, and we have not had a problem loading the billboards in that version .</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span> Don Slater <<a href="mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dslater@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Reply-To: </span> Alice educators <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span> Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 12:42 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span> Alice Teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span> Dennis Cosgrove <<a href="mailto:dennis.cosgrove@gmail.com" class="">dennis.cosgrove@gmail.com</a>>, Dave Culyba <<a href="mailto:dculyba@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dculyba@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span> Re: alice-teacher blank billboards Alice 3<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Does he have problems with any image file, or just this particular file? What format is the image file?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What happens when he tries to import the image directly as he builds the billboard, instead of using the resource manager?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you,</div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 19, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Heidi Kunselman <<a href="mailto:hkunselman@d92.org" class="">hkunselman@d92.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">Hello, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We are having an issue with our billboards. When a student of mine tried to import a billboard image through the resource manager he is getting a blank billboard and it is also changing the ground color to a solid color. We are using Alice 3.2.5. They are running IOS 10.7.5 on mac desktops. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I tried the same file on my mac laptop and everything worked as it should. I am running iOS 10.9. Both machines have Java 8 version 31.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Is this a known problem with that operating system? Any other suggestions? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><font face="Calibri,Verdana,Helvetica,Arial" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; " class="">Thanks,<br class=""><br class="">Heidi Kunselman<br class="">Technology Teacher <br class="">Oak Prairie Junior High<br class=""><br class=""></span></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; " class=""><font color="#5D5D5D" class=""><font face="Verdana,Helvetica,Arial" class=""></font></font></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12px;"><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial" class=""><font color="#7E007E" class="">“</font></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12px;"><font color="#7E007E" class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; " class=""><font face="Verdana Italic" class="">Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; <br class="">indeed it is the only thing that ever has.” <br class=""> </font><font face="Verdana,Helvetica,Arial" class="">-</font><font face="Verdana Italic" class="">Margaret Mead</font></span></font></font></span></div></div></div>
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