[SCA-Dance] Sca-dance Digest, Vol 113, Issue 1 - Down-up-l; at double?

Justin du coeur jducoeur at gmail.com
Fri May 1 21:20:41 EDT 2015

I'm away from home at the moment, so I don't have my sources to hand (and
this was 20 years ago), but IIRC it originally derived from a reference in
Domenico or Ebreo about the step starting up like a hawk stooping to
strike, or something like that.  We'd been raised on Ingrid's down-up-flat
steps; based on that passage, we decided that down-flat-up, with a steady
rise throughout, seemed a more likely reading.  So that's how we interpret
undaggiare.  (Sp?)

Mind, I teach the effect as fairly subtle - a slight bend on the first
step, up to balls on the feet on the last. I find that it suits the
repertoire well, and pairs well with a slight umbraggiare...
On May 1, 2015 8:25 PM, "Rachel/Judith" <judithsca at aol.com> wrote:

>  Salvete!
>   Justin du Ceour wrote:
> I find that teaching the steps
> as written tends to constrain step size
> somewhat.  We take piva to be exactly a
> quick double step (which the
> sources suggest), and we teach the down-flat-up
> rising double step quite
> early on.  That tends to become down-up-up at piva
> tempo, so you're doing
> most of the step on the balls of your feet, which in my
> experience *tends*
> to make my steps a bit smaller.  Not Caroso-level tiny, but
> not great
> gallumphs.
> When you say down, do you mean bending your knees so that you actually dip
> down on the first step of the double? If so, I have seen this before and
> wonder whence this interpretation oriented. There is talk in the sources
> about rising through the double, comparisons to gentle waves, etc., but I
> cannot recall anything about stepping *down*. Do you have something
> specific for this?
> Best,
> Judith
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