[SCA-Dance] Pinagay bransle
alexbclark at pennswoods.net
Wed Sep 25 22:21:58 EDT 2013
To set the record straight(er), it's in the SCA that the mixed branles
are swept into a single suite. Arbeau only identifies Cassandre and
Pinagay as the first two of a suite, while the other mixed branles are
not in the suite.
I've just consulted the facsimile, and Arbeau has repeats at the end
(going back to a point other than the beginning) only for Cassandre
and Aridan, not for Pinagay, Charlotte, or War. All but Pinagay repeat
the first strain of the tune, and Pinagay and Aridan have "don't
repeat" signs to point out where it might seem like the music begins a
new strain at a place where there isn't any repeat either forward or
back. In the case of Aridan, the "don't repeat" means that it is only
divided into two for repeats, and not into three.
So to sum up how the tunes are divided by repeat signs, and what to
repeat before starting over at the beginning:
Cassandre: Divided in two, repeat both.
Pinagay: Undivided, no repeats.
Charlotte: Divided in two, repeat the first.
War: Divided in two, repeat the first.
Aridan: Divided in two, repeat both.
On 9/25/13, David Learmonth <david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally don't tend to repeat the last set of doubles, unless the music
> / musician tells me to. :)
> I'm not certain if it is now the fashion, or just happens to be spreading
> in certain areas perhaps? Cassandra, Charlotte, and Aridan all often have
> the B section of the music / dance repeated, and since these are all part
> of the same suite, this could be one origin for the trend.
> Although I must say that repeating the latter half of War bransle is just
> cruel. :P
> Mostly in our area(s) (Ealdormere, and Cynnabar / Midrealm I think), we've
> had fun with the bransles by making them a bit of a game. Our skilled
> musicians will play them in order, and then will mix up the order, so we
> have those first 4 beats of each one (the Double to the Left) to figure out
> which one we are dancing by the tune being played. It is a neat challenge.
> We started with this particular bransle suite, as it made the most sense I
> think, but we've branched into throwing in nearly any bransle out there,
> sometimes at least, which can be quite the challenge to remember all the
> tunes. (most of them are fairly clear once you've heard them, or you can
> follow along with other people. But there are a few bransles that have the
> same general structure, such that you could actually do one bransle to the
> tune of another, without having it feel particularly off / without being
> out of sync with the music. I'm trying to remember which ones, I think
> Hermit's, Clog, and Pease might have been one of the few examples, though
> the music certainly does sound different.)
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Monica Hultin <mhultin at mymts.net> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I learned Pinagay Bransle in the SCA years ago (20 or so), but haven’t
>> been active for awhile now. So I am curious about a particular
>> in this dance I heard of talking to a young SCA member.
>> When I learned this piece, the last set of doubles were not repeated.
>> is there a repeat noted in Arbeau. So why are people adding a repeat
>> Also, when I look at videos, it appears to be the latest style to repeat
>> the final doubles.
>> Monika z Gniezno
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