[SCA-Dance] New Policy for webpages for Known World Events hosted in the Midrealm

David Learmonth david.a.learmonth at gmail.com
Tue Jul 3 00:20:59 EDT 2012

Actually, I will send an email to start a discussion going, and see if we
can figure something out.  I know that there is risk that this may
accelerate the process of moving towards KW events all fractionated again
onto each Kingdom's website, but we can give it a shot.  (I mean, depending
what everyone thinks.  So far, it sounded like the attendees of the Future
of KWDS session a few weeks ago were in favour of what Gwommy and I are
trying to do.)

Oh, and sorry, don't worry about the idea of splitting off KWDS from the
SCA.  It was just a fleeting thought, since it has come up for discussion
before, and since we market the event to so many local dance groups as well
as just the SCA itself.  Of course I would much rather it stay an SCA
event.  :)


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:06 AM, David Learmonth <
david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bah.  I got dinged by the list for too many recipients.  (I thought it was
> ok to have them cced, if they weren't in the "to:" category).
> Oh well, here it is again.  :)
> Darius
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:03 AM, David Learmonth <
> david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ah.  Thanks for the update Urraca.
>> I guess we shall see what happens, and if nothing else, I suppose that
>> our website can still be a re-direct page to the event, and potentially we
>> can just copy the code over to the new server, and then copy it back after
>> the event for archive purposes?
>> Hmm, may cause a bit of a mess.  Also, no offense to anyone, but I hope
>> that the web ministers don't decide to step in to change things, just for
>> change sake.  They could easily decide to break things, or undo the work
>> we're trying to do / make people's jobs harder, when the whole point is to
>> make a really good looking, easy to work with website, that will save
>> everyone time / manpower / money.
>> In fact, I'm really surprised about this.  They should re-consider their
>> policy, because Known World events will have their own specific
>> requirements more than anything, when it comes to the types of information
>> to be made available.  And they move around so much.  (perhaps instead they
>> should all have their own global websites like ours?  and just get society
>> to be ok with the quality of it?  or that might make things tougher)
>> I guess it is too bad we didn't have this in place a few years ago, to
>> help set precedent for KW events.  Perhaps we can discuss the ramifications
>> with her?  I mean, I can appreciate their standpoint, and we certainly are
>> willing to work with each future KWDS to make sure their needs are met
>> (though we are hoping that the template developed should cover most
>> eventualities), we weren't planning on taking away their ability to add
>> detail.  But I am also concerned that having a web minister involved who is
>> not part of the event, may add another level to any changes required, and
>> thus make it more difficult to disseminate the required information
>> promptly.
>> Darius
>> P.S.  Ok, not to overreact, but hey, one other option is that we can
>> always consider again the option of taking KWDS outside the realm of the
>> SCA.  The main 2 differences were the Advertising, and the Insurance.  I
>> know this is quite a jump for just this issue  (though I don't want to see
>> our work and money on this going to waste), but again just in case other
>> issues come up, as it sounds like many of our attempts to run this event
>> have had some problems here and there.  Anyway, not something to go to too
>> quickly, just brainstorming options.  (whether I should brainstorm such
>> options openly on the SCA Dance list, I don't know.  Hopefully no one will
>> take offense.  As a few of us know, there has been a history of issues, not
>> just at the one we had.  But mainly just that we don't want the concept of
>> KWDS to get weighted down too much in Bureaucracy, since we are quite a
>> supportive group that are highly invested / interested in seeing this event
>> succeed.)
>> What do you think?  Should I email this person?  Perhaps instead I'll
>> touch base with the Board / Society level officers I know, to get them
>> interested from our end, and make a case for us?
>> *snip*
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>> ...don't be surprised if she pushes the SCA as a whole to adopt a
>>> similar policy.
>>> --Urraca
>>>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> *From:* Judy Kirk <mizsiobhan at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* MK Middlebridge <sca-middle at midrealm.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 2, 2012 3:30 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Mid] Ne4w Policy for webpages for Known World Events hosted
>>> in the Midrealm
>>> Hello everyone! There is a new policy statement coming for Known World
>>> Events hosted in our Kingdom.
>>> Beginning January 1, 2013, all Known World Events hosted in the Middle
>>> Kingdom will be -required- to host that event webpage on the Middle Kingdom
>>> server.
>>> Up to now, Known World Event webpages could be hosted either on the
>>> Middle Kingdom server or on a private server.
>>> SCA web policies indicate that when a webpage is hosted on a private
>>> server, the Kingdom Webminister has no administrative authority.
>>> However, when webpages are hosted on the Kingdom server, the Kingdom
>>> Webminister has administrative access and authority to step in, should the
>>> web deputy default for any reason.
>>> Known World Events hosted in our Kingdom are a sense of pride for us, we
>>> have a chance to show our Kingdom in its best light to the entire SCA
>>> community, and that should include the event's webpage.
>>> Known World Events need to have their webpages on the hosting Kingdom
>>> Server to add a layer of invisible protection should the event staff run
>>> into an emergency. The Kingdom Webminister will be invisible to the Known
>>> World Event staff, except in the case of an emergency and someone is needed
>>> to step in and maintain that page.
>>> If anyone has questions, please let me know. Feel free to share this
>>> post as necessary,
>>> Banbharun Siobhan O'Neill, CL, CP
>>> Middle Kingdom Chronicler

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