[SCA-Dance] New Policy for webpages for Known World Events hosted in the Midrealm

David Learmonth david.a.learmonth at gmail.com
Tue Jul 3 00:06:43 EDT 2012

Bah.  I got dinged by the list for too many recipients.  (I thought it was
ok to have them cced, if they weren't in the "to:" category).

Oh well, here it is again.  :)


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:03 AM, David Learmonth <
david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah.  Thanks for the update Urraca.
> I guess we shall see what happens, and if nothing else, I suppose that our
> website can still be a re-direct page to the event, and potentially we can
> just copy the code over to the new server, and then copy it back after the
> event for archive purposes?
> Hmm, may cause a bit of a mess.  Also, no offense to anyone, but I hope
> that the web ministers don't decide to step in to change things, just for
> change sake.  They could easily decide to break things, or undo the work
> we're trying to do / make people's jobs harder, when the whole point is to
> make a really good looking, easy to work with website, that will save
> everyone time / manpower / money.
> In fact, I'm really surprised about this.  They should re-consider their
> policy, because Known World events will have their own specific
> requirements more than anything, when it comes to the types of information
> to be made available.  And they move around so much.  (perhaps instead they
> should all have their own global websites like ours?  and just get society
> to be ok with the quality of it?  or that might make things tougher)
> I guess it is too bad we didn't have this in place a few years ago, to
> help set precedent for KW events.  Perhaps we can discuss the ramifications
> with her?  I mean, I can appreciate their standpoint, and we certainly are
> willing to work with each future KWDS to make sure their needs are met
> (though we are hoping that the template developed should cover most
> eventualities), we weren't planning on taking away their ability to add
> detail.  But I am also concerned that having a web minister involved who is
> not part of the event, may add another level to any changes required, and
> thus make it more difficult to disseminate the required information
> promptly.
> Darius
> P.S.  Ok, not to overreact, but hey, one other option is that we can
> always consider again the option of taking KWDS outside the realm of the
> SCA.  The main 2 differences were the Advertising, and the Insurance.  I
> know this is quite a jump for just this issue  (though I don't want to see
> our work and money on this going to waste), but again just in case other
> issues come up, as it sounds like many of our attempts to run this event
> have had some problems here and there.  Anyway, not something to go to too
> quickly, just brainstorming options.  (whether I should brainstorm such
> options openly on the SCA Dance list, I don't know.  Hopefully no one will
> take offense.  As a few of us know, there has been a history of issues, not
> just at the one we had.  But mainly just that we don't want the concept of
> KWDS to get weighted down too much in Bureaucracy, since we are quite a
> supportive group that are highly invested / interested in seeing this event
> succeed.)
> What do you think?  Should I email this person?  Perhaps instead I'll
> touch base with the Board / Society level officers I know, to get them
> interested from our end, and make a case for us?
> *snip*
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ...don't be surprised if she pushes the SCA as a whole to adopt a similar
>> policy.
>> --Urraca
>>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> *From:* Judy Kirk <mizsiobhan at gmail.com>
>> *To:* MK Middlebridge <sca-middle at midrealm.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 2, 2012 3:30 PM
>> *Subject:* [Mid] Ne4w Policy for webpages for Known World Events hosted
>> in the Midrealm
>> Hello everyone! There is a new policy statement coming for Known World
>> Events hosted in our Kingdom.
>> Beginning January 1, 2013, all Known World Events hosted in the Middle
>> Kingdom will be -required- to host that event webpage on the Middle Kingdom
>> server.
>> Up to now, Known World Event webpages could be hosted either on the
>> Middle Kingdom server or on a private server.
>> SCA web policies indicate that when a webpage is hosted on a private
>> server, the Kingdom Webminister has no administrative authority.
>> However, when webpages are hosted on the Kingdom server, the Kingdom
>> Webminister has administrative access and authority to step in, should the
>> web deputy default for any reason.
>> Known World Events hosted in our Kingdom are a sense of pride for us, we
>> have a chance to show our Kingdom in its best light to the entire SCA
>> community, and that should include the event's webpage.
>> Known World Events need to have their webpages on the hosting Kingdom
>> Server to add a layer of invisible protection should the event staff run
>> into an emergency. The Kingdom Webminister will be invisible to the Known
>> World Event staff, except in the case of an emergency and someone is needed
>> to step in and maintain that page.
>> If anyone has questions, please let me know. Feel free to share this post
>> as necessary,
>> Banbharun Siobhan O'Neill, CL, CP
>> Middle Kingdom Chronicler

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