autocreate.sieve doesn't work correct. temporary files

Bron Gondwana brong at fastmail.fm
Fri Oct 2 17:43:13 EDT 2015


I'm planning to create an option to reject delete or move into a sub
folder for any folder with a special-use flag. We would allow rename. Of
course with this would be a sieve extension to do delivery to a special-
use flag instead of folder name...

Bron.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015, at 05:41, Stephen Ulmer wrote:
> A user deleting her spam folder won’t be prevented by a sieve script.
>
> I hope that most of your spam identification rules are run in your MTA
> (not in sieve) and then sieve is used to sort messages based on a a
> few simple flags.
>
> There may be a perfectly good use case for confusing users by having
> something that they can’t see or edit change their mailbox behavior,
> but I don’t think that spam defense is it. That being said,
> implementing global identifiers for an “include” directive would be
> nice… Then the user could include features from a catalog using a name
> from a registry of includes, rather than a path.
>
>
> --
> Stephen
>
>
>
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Mai Ling
>> <mailinglists35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Even if you create once & forget, there are still cases where site-
>> enforced rules are useful: On the previous setup I've managed I've
>> encountered lots of cases where people accidentally deleted their
>> spam folders or their spam rules; Having an user rule automagically
>> imported/enforced from a site template would always prevent these.
>>
>> On Vin, oct. 2, 2015 at 10:13 p.m.,  Stephen Ulmer
>> <ulmer at ufl.edu> wrote:
>>> I would not imagine that you’d need (or want) to change all of the
>>> users’ rules to make an update for spam filtering. Just filter on an
>>> X- header that’s added by your MTA. Change the way the header gets
>>> calculated, but not what it means to the sieve script.
>>>
>>> This is presuming that you make the modification just once (to turn
>>> it on).
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Mai Ling <mailinglists35 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh awesome!
>>>>
>>>> I wish they add support for editable site-default sieve rules that
>>>> override user sieve rules.
>>>>
>>>> This way you won't have to update all users rules when you want to
>>>> make modification to everyones' rules (usecase: spam filtering)
>>>>
>>>> On Sâm, sept. 26, 2015 at 1:30 a.m.,  Artyom Aleksandrov
>>>> <mailing.list at tem4uk.ru> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,I want to create default sieve scipt for all my users
but I stuck with strange problem that looks like the bug. Unfortunately
I've never wrote on C so it's difficult for me to find it.
>>>>> When Cyrus
 (2.5.3 or 2.5.6) create default sieve script it doesn't put file in
 sieve_dir/?/user folder. It jist creates tmp files in configdirectory
 with names like this
>>>>> -rw-------  1 cyrus mail   124 Sep 26 00:41
>>>>> ?&?P??default.script.bc -rw-------  1 cyrus mail   231 Sep 26
>>>>> 00:41 ?&?P??default.script.script lrwxrwxrwx  1 cyrus mail    17
>>>>> Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??defaultbc -> default.script.bc
>>>>>
>>>>> There are not checks in this stage so my syslog is clean of error.
>>>>> Everything seems fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sep
 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: Problem
 opening compiled script file: default.script.bc. Compiling it
>>>>> Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve:
>>>>> Compiled sieve script was successfully saved in default.script.bc
>>>>> Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: User
>>>>> XXXX, default sieve script creation succeeded
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My setting: autocreate_sieve_script:
>>>>> /var/spool/sieve/global/default.script
>>>>> autocreate_sieve_script_compile: yes
>>>>> autocreate_sieve_script_compiled: default.script.bc sievedir:
>>>>> /var/spool/sieve/ Distributive: Ubuntu 14.04.3
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be glad for any help. )
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Artyom
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