autocreate.sieve doesn't work correct. temporary files

[Stephen Ulmer]

Now THAT is a good idea!

What are you going to do for delivery if there’s more than one folder with the flag (or is that already impossible some other way)?

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Stephen



> On Oct 2, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Bron Gondwana <brong at fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> I'm planning to create an option to reject delete or move into a sub folder for any folder with a special-use flag. We would allow rename. Of course with this would be a sieve extension to do delivery to a special-use flag instead of folder name...
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> Bron.
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> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015, at 05:41, Stephen Ulmer wrote:
>> A user deleting her spam folder won’t be prevented by a sieve script.
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>> I hope that most of your spam identification rules are run in your MTA (not in sieve) and then sieve is used to sort messages based on a a few simple flags.
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>> There may be a perfectly good use case for confusing users by having something that they can’t see or edit change their mailbox behavior, but I don’t think that spam defense is it. That being said, implementing global identifiers for an “include” directive would be nice… Then the user could include features from a catalog using a name from a registry of includes, rather than a path.
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>> Stephen
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>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Mai Ling <mailinglists35 at gmail.com <mailto:mailinglists35 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Even if you create once & forget, there are still cases where site-enforced rules are useful:
>>> On the previous setup I've managed I've encountered lots of cases where people accidentally deleted their spam folders or their spam rules;
>>> Having an user rule automagically imported/enforced from a site template would always prevent these.
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>>> On Vin, oct. 2, 2015 at 10:13 p.m., Stephen Ulmer <ulmer at ufl.edu <mailto:ulmer at ufl.edu>> wrote:
>>> I would not imagine that you’d need (or want) to change all of the users’ rules to make an update for spam filtering. Just filter on an X- header that’s added by your MTA. Change the way the header gets calculated, but not what it means to the sieve script.
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>>> This is presuming that you make the modification just once (to turn it on).
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>>> Stephen
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>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Mai Ling <mailinglists35 at gmail.com <mailto:mailinglists35 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Oh awesome!
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>>> I wish they add support for editable site-default sieve rules that override user sieve rules.
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>>> This way you won't have to update all users rules when you want to make modification to everyones' rules (usecase: spam filtering)
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>>> On Sâm, sept. 26, 2015 at 1:30 a.m., Artyom Aleksandrov <mailing.list at tem4uk.ru <mailto:mailing.list at tem4uk.ru>> wrote:
>>> Hello,I want to create default sieve scipt for all my users but I stuck with strange problem that looks like the bug. Unfortunately I've never wrote on C so it's difficult for me to find it.
>>> When Cyrus (2.5.3 or 2.5.6) create default sieve script it doesn't put file in sieve_dir/?/user folder. It jist creates tmp files in configdirectory with names like this
>>> -rw------- 1 cyrus mail 124 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??default.script.bc
>>> -rw------- 1 cyrus mail 231 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??default.script.script
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 cyrus mail 17 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??defaultbc -> default.script.bc
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>>> There are not checks in this stage so my syslog is clean of error.
>>> Everything seems fine.
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>>> Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: Problem opening compiled script file: default.script.bc. Compiling it
>>> Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: Compiled sieve script was successfully saved in default.script.bc
>>> Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: User XXXX, default sieve script creation succeeded 
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>>> My setting:
>>> autocreate_sieve_script: /var/spool/sieve/global/default.script
>>> autocreate_sieve_script_compile: yes
>>> autocreate_sieve_script_compiled: default.script.bc
>>> sievedir: /var/spool/sieve/
>>> Distributive: Ubuntu 14.04.3
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>>> I'll be glad for any help. )
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>>> Best regards, Artyom
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