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<body><div>I'm planning to create an option to reject delete or move into a sub folder for any folder with a special-use flag. We would allow rename. Of course with this would be a sieve extension to do delivery to a special-use flag instead of folder name...</div>
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<div>On Sat, Oct 3, 2015, at 05:41, Stephen Ulmer wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>A user deleting her spam folder won’t be prevented by a sieve script.<br></div>
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<div>I hope that most of your spam identification rules are run in your MTA (not in sieve) and then sieve is used to sort messages based on a a few simple flags.<br></div>
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<div>There may be a perfectly good use case for confusing users by having something that they can’t see or edit change their mailbox behavior, but I don’t think that spam defense is it. That being said, implementing global identifiers for an “include” directive would be nice… Then the user could include features from a catalog using a name from a registry of includes, rather than a path.<br></div>
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<div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Mai Ling <<a href="mailto:mailinglists35@gmail.com">mailinglists35@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div>Even if you create once & forget, there are still cases where site-enforced rules are useful:<br></div>
<div>On the previous setup I've managed I've encountered lots of cases where people accidentally deleted their spam folders or their spam rules;<br></div>
<div><div>Having an user rule automagically imported/enforced from a site template would always prevent these.<br></div>
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<div><div style=""><div>On Vin, oct. 2, 2015 at 10:13 p.m., Stephen Ulmer <<a href="mailto:ulmer@ufl.edu">ulmer@ufl.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<div style="overflow-y:visible;overflow-x:visible;"><blockquote style="color:rgb(48, 59, 64);"><div><div>I would not imagine that you’d need (or want) to change all of the users’ rules to make an update for spam filtering. Just filter on an X- header that’s added by your MTA. Change the way the header gets calculated, but not what it means to the sieve script.<br></div>
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<div>This is presuming that you make the modification just once (to turn it on).<br></div>
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<div><blockquote><div>On Oct 2, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Mai Ling <<a href="mailto:mailinglists35@gmail.com">mailinglists35@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div>Oh awesome!<br></div>
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<div>I wish they add support for editable site-default sieve rules that override user sieve rules.<br></div>
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<div><div>This way you won't have to update all users rules when you want to make modification to everyones' rules (usecase: spam filtering)<br></div>
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<div><div><div>On Sâm, sept. 26, 2015 at 1:30 a.m., Artyom Aleksandrov <<a href="mailto:mailing.list@tem4uk.ru">mailing.list@tem4uk.ru</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<div style="overflow-y:visible;overflow-x:visible;"><blockquote style="color:rgb(48, 59, 64);"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hello,I want to create default sieve scipt for all my users
but I stuck with strange problem that looks like the bug. Unfortunately
I've never wrote on C so it's difficult for me to find it.<br></div>
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(2.5.3 or 2.5.6) create default sieve script it doesn't put file in
sieve_dir/?/user folder. It jist creates tmp files in configdirectory
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<div style="margin-left:40px;"><div>-rw------- 1 cyrus mail 124 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??default.script.bc<br></div>
<div>-rw------- 1 cyrus mail 231 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??default.script.script<br></div>
<div>lrwxrwxrwx 1 cyrus mail 17 Sep 26 00:41 ?&?P??defaultbc -> default.script.bc<br></div>
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<div>There are not checks in this stage so my syslog is clean of error.<br></div>
<div><div>Everything seems fine.<br></div>
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<div style="margin-left:40px;"><div>Sep
26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: Problem
opening compiled script file: default.script.bc. Compiling it<br></div>
<div>Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: Compiled sieve script was successfully saved in default.script.bc<br></div>
<div>Sep 26 00:41:34 imapsync cyrus/imap[26117]: autocreate_sieve: User XXXX, default sieve script creation succeeded <br></div>
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<div><div>My setting:<br></div>
<div style="margin-left:40px;"><div>autocreate_sieve_script: /var/spool/sieve/global/default.script<br></div>
<div>autocreate_sieve_script_compile: yes<br></div>
<div>autocreate_sieve_script_compiled: default.script.bc<br></div>
<div>sievedir: /var/spool/sieve/<br></div>
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<div>Distributive: Ubuntu 14.04.3<br></div>
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<div>I'll be glad for any help. )<br></div>
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<div>Best regards, Artyom<br></div>
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