murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)

Dave McMurtrie dave64 at
Thu Jun 11 18:59:00 EDT 2009

On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:38 PM, "Greg A. Woods" <woods-cyrus at>  

> At Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:38:31 -0400, Dave McMurtrie <dave64 at 
> > wrote:
> Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate.  Rather, he's
>> working to integrate IDM into our environment.  We need a way for our
>> identity management system to be able to simply connect to a Cyrus
>> frontend and issue a create command and have something useful happen.
> I've never understood this idea of why anything that has anything to  
> do
> with user management should _ever_ have anything to do with mailbox
> creation.
> Mailboxes (i.e. the default first INBOX for every user) should  
> always be
> created _automatically_ as needed for every valid user.
> The easiest way to do this is to trust the mail delivery system to  
> have
> already verified the existence of every authorized mail user.  This is
> quite safe to do because if there is any reason you can't do so then
> your mail system is broken, by definition, anyway.  (i.e. if your MTA
> cannot be trusted to only accept and to deliver mail for valid users
> then it will no doubt be generating backscatter and it will be  
> abused by
> those who do such dastardly things)
> Why make everything far more complicated than it needs to be?
> Especially things related to user management?

A valid point to mailbox creation, but what would delete the mailbox  
when a student graduates?


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