When users delete mail, I want it to be moved to Trash.

[Erik Enge]

Rob Siemborski <rjs3 at andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Okay, I think you're trying to solve the problem the wrong way.  If
> you need a record of every email that has ever passed through your
> company, can't you just have the MTA save a record of it without
> inconveinencing your users with managing their mail how they see fit?

I could, but that would introduce new hassles.  I want the users to be
able to get to all their mail, by themselves, if they need to.  If I
saved it like that, I would have to make that mail available through
some other protocol (one that one ensure that they could not delete it -
so IMAP and POP would be right out) - which is more administration
hassle.

No, I think I am trying to solve it correctly.  Cyrus stores my data and
Cyrus is the one that will not allow me to manage that data they way I
see fit.

Besides, just think of the extra hardware resources I would need.
Storing double copies would require extra SCSI disks (and thus a new
casing) and I would have to change my backup schema.  No, I shouldn't
have to store it all twice.  It's stored just fine the way it is.  I
just need to make users not able to remove it.
 
What about a site with 10.000 users and terrabytes of mail?  Would you
suggest to them that they also save everything twice?  And if not, and
if such a site would be interested in Cyrus, would the answer be "sorry,
can't help you"?

> This doesn't sound like a problem that Cyrus can or even should try to
> solve.

Why not?  It must be something either I or you are overlooking.  To me
this is as simple as: Cyrus will not allow me to manage the data it
stores the way I want it managed.  You seem to be saying that this is
not a responsability of Cyrus.

Well, the reason something needs to be solved it because Cyrus won't let
me do this.  Had it let me do this (enforce a no-delete policy) there
wouldn't be anything to solve.  Cyrus introduces the problem so it
should be the one to fix it.

Erik.