alice-teacher Alice 3 suddenly closing while students working on projects

[Carlos Bovell]

Hi James,

Thanks for responding. It hasn't been our experience that Alice 3 saves backups for students. If there's a setting for that, maybe that could help mitigate the problem. Although I have the students trying to save as often as they remember to, there have been a few times where Alice 3 suddenly crashes/closes with the last 10-20 minutes' worth of work lost. When it happens to the same student — even just twice — they become less motivated to put forth effort and start saying things to me like, "This app is trash." I saw it happen to two students and a third student claims it happened to him too. This third student has tried three different student stations because his Alice 3 worlds keep freezing. We are saving our worlds to a network drive. Could that have something to do with it? (I've used Alice 3 for the last part of the school year for years now and this is the first time we've had this issue.)

If others have had similar issues and especially found a workaround, I'd be happy to try to problem solve. Otherwise, we'll change direction and work with the Finches until the end of the school year.

Sincerely,

Carlos Bovell
Northern Burlington High School
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Carlos, I don’t see it happen in class too much, but the students report crashes while working on homework projects. I remind them that Alice saves backup files, so they may not have lost everything. They are in the same folder as the project, with the Alice project name as the name of the backup folder.

James
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James Vanderhyde
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Computer Science
Saint Xavier University
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Chicago, IL 60655
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Help! Morale is getting low. Alice 3 is closing suddenly on students without warning. We are using Dell Optiplex 7000s Windows 11 Pro. Anyone else familiar with something like this happening?

Carlos Bovell
Northern Burlington High School
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