alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 46, Issue 5 (Susan Stein)

Tue May 13 14:22:57 EDT 2014

I agree with Phil Funk's comment. I use Scratch with grades 4-6, Alice 2x
with grades 7-8, and Alice 3x with grade 9. It's a nice transition up to
Alice 3x and Java.

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Funk, Philip <P.Funk at snhu.edu> wrote:

> Regarding question from Susan in Vol 46 Issue 5, I completely agree with
> the response from Marilynn regarding using Alice 2.x vs. Alice 3.x.  Don't
> worry about students who have done some Java programming.  That probably
> means they are aware of the need for syntax considerations such as
> semi-colons and braces.  Alice eliminates those needs.
> In terms of teaching principles and concepts, there is a lot more to be
> learned from a semester with Alice than there would be from two semesters
> with Java (obviously my opinion - based on some experience - here).
> If you are beginning with sixth graders, you might consider starting out
> with Scratch (http://scratch.mit.edu) and then transitioning to Alice.
>         Phil Funk
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>    1. Re:  Alice 2 or 3 for middle schoolRe: s Digest, Vol 46,
>       Issue 5 (Susan Stein)
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> From: Susan Stein <susan at susanstein.org>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Alice 2 or 3 for middle schoolRe: s Digest,
>         Vol 46, Issue 5
> To: Marilynn Huret <mhuret at mindspring.com>,     Alice educators
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> I do have the occasional student who is already programming in Java.
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> > Marilynn Huret <mailto:mhuret at mindspring.com> May 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM
> >
> > If you are introducing it to middle schoolers, Alice2 would be most
> > appropriate since it involves language and abilities geared to that
> > age group. alice 3 is not an upgrade, it is a more enhanced version
> > leading to development in java.
> >
> > Marilynn Huret
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> > mhuret at mindspring.com <mailto:mhuret at mindspring.com>
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> > > 1. Re: Alice 2 Workshop -- Introduction To Alice (Susan Stein)
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> > >Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 08:45:06 -0400
> > >From: Susan Stein
> > >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Alice 2 Workshop -- Introduction To Alice
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> > >Hi Don,
> > >
> > >I teach middle school technology (6-8th grades), I want to
> > >incorporate Alice into my curriculum next year. So I was wondering if
> > >it would be better for me to take Alice 2, Alice 3, or both. I'm a
> > >beginner and have very little experience with Alice.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Susan Stein
> > >
> > >> Don Slater
> > >> May 7, 2014 at 8:15 AM
> > >> June 28th-July 2th, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
> > >>
> > >> Registration Page:
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> > https://web.campusservices.cmu.edu/conferences/registration.taf?ID=201
> > 4alice
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> > >>
> > >> Carnegie Mellon will host an Alice 2.4 Institute for middle/high
> > >> school and college instructors. Alice,an innovative 3D programming
> > >> environment developed at Carnegie Mellon University, is designed as
> > >> an instructional tool for teaching and learning computational
> > >> thinking and introductory programming concepts. With Alice,
> > >> students learn fundamental programming concepts in the context of
> > >> creating animations, videos, and simple games.
> > >>
> > >> Alice 2.4 features a new set of 3D models from the Garfield?
> > >> comics, courtesy of Paws, Inc. This workshop will explore the Alice
> > >> 2.4 programming environment as an effective and engaging tool to
> > >> introduce students in middle school through first-year college to
> > >> fundamental programming concepts and Computer Science. We will also
> > >> explore how Alice 2.4 can be used in multidisciplinary K-12 classroom
> settings.
> > >>
> > >> This workshop will be presented by nationally recognized curriculum
> > >> experts in Alice.
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