[SCA-Dance] War Branle Music tempo question...

[David Learmonth]

Interesting version in the video.  Now although I know that during lots of
doubles, many of us will go into a more natural feel of Walking back and
forth from side to side, as opposed to stepping sideways as I think we do
more often / perhaps feel is more appropriate / accurate.  (I'd expect this
could be debated / discussed as to how to most accurately move sideways in a
period Arbeau fashion, i.e. if a turned walking forward with crossing feet
is allowed.)

However, I find it interesting that they are doing the fast part with added
Cross-kicks, as are done in Scottish Bransle.  Just curious, have other
people done this?  Is this a valid interpretation, or just a flourish?  It
has been a while since I've reconstructed this dance, perhaps I'll have to
take a look later this evening.

Darius



On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Monica Hultin <mhultin at mts.net> wrote:

> You’re welcome.  Came across this on youtube of an example of it not being
> sped up as well, (if that’ll help anyone).
>
> Moniika
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8PfzsL1cGo
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8PfzsL1cGo>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Bornander [mailto:wrborn at hotmail.com]
> Sent: March 13, 2010 8:01 PM
> To: alexbclark at pennswoods.net; mhultin at mts.net
> Cc: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> Subject: RE: [SCA-Dance] War Branle Music tempo question...
>
> Monika, Henry,
>
> I had checked Orchesography...that was what I meant when I said "was
> suprised when I went back to Arbeau and found nothing to hint that there
> should be any change..." I also realize that the dancing is quicker... It
> was actually one of the musicians that came to me with that querry (as she
> had also assured me it was often played faster...)
>
> More importantly, thanks for helping a sleep deprived person see (what
> should have been obvious.) The one recording I was thinking of (I just
> confirmed) was actually faster so I`m not totally lost.
>
> The confirmation that it should not be faster is appreciated...
> Wilhelm
>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:27:00 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] War Branle Music tempo question...
> > From: alexbclark at pennswoods.net
> > To: mhultin at mts.net
> > CC: wrborn at hotmail.com; sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Specifically, while the two strains are almost identical in length,
> > the second strain has one third again as many notes. It also has as
> > many doubles as the first strain, plus five singles, three greves, and
> > a jump.
> >
> > --
> > Henry of Maldon/Alex Clark
> >
> > On 3/13/10, Monica Hultin <mhultin at mts.net> wrote:
> > > Just pulled out my Orchesography. (War Bransle is on p. 143 of the
> Dover
> > > edition)
> > >
> > > There is no tempi changed, there is not need. However, the steps in the
> > > second half are done twice as fast as in the first half if you see how
> he
> > > assigns them to the notes. Ie. A double left takes the equivalent of
> four
> > > semibreves, (the things that look like whole notes), whereas in the
> second
> > > half, a double left is done in the equivalent of only four minimas,
> (the
> > > things that look like half notes) or only 2 semibreves, hence this part
> is
> > > DANCED twice as fast.
> > >
> > > Also because the second half consists mainly of minimas, it may sound
> > > faster.
> > >
> > > To speed up the second half, would make the second half ridiculously
> fast
> > > and difficult, whereas I've always found dancing it as written is
> certainly
> > > fast and fun enough.
> > >
> > > YIS
> > > Monika z Gniezno,
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sca-dance-bounces+mhultin=mts.net at sca-dance.org
> > > [mailto:sca-dance-bounces+mhultin <sca-dance-bounces%2Bmhultin>=
> mts.net at sca-dance.org]On Behalf Of
> William
> > > Bornander
> > > Sent: March 12, 2010 5:44 PM
> > > To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> > > Subject: [SCA-Dance] War Branle Music tempo question...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > We are dealing with the last questions on the Academy and Dance event
> and
> > > had a question on the War Bransle... I have heard the second part of
> the
> > > music played much faster then the first part almost all times I have
> heard
> > > this performed for dance, but the musicians who are assigned this play
> it
> > > all without tempi change
> > > I was suprised when I went back to Arbeau and found nothing to hint
> that
> > > there should be any change so I became curious... What is the reason it
> is
> > > done so that I have missed? Or is it just a custom of playing as it was
> > > heard?
> > > Any comments on or off list are welcome...
> > > YiS,Wilhelm of Northpass
> > >
> > >
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