[SCA-Dance] SCAd-Dance Delving into the Trihory

[Josef Berger]

Yes, that's true. Guilcher did not even discuss this discrepancy, he simply
added an eighth beat to the triory to make it fit his theory.

The seven beats in Arbeau's tune notation versus the eight beats in Breton
folk gavottes might indeed bring Guilcher's theory to fall.

But it is an interesting comparison, worth to think of.

BTW, I remember even some Breton dance teacher who counted to seven, not to
eight, when teaching the Breton gavotte, because the left foot rests in the
air on the eighth beat, as a prolongation of the seventh, preparing for the
first beat again. In fact he was counting the steps, not the beats.

J.

2013/2/14 Mikuláš <migulas at gmail.com>

> Although that's a tempting theory, I always had a feeling that Triory
> is in seven beats, not in eight, as all the breton gavottes.
> Any thoughts on that?
>
> Mikuláš
>
> On 13 February 2013 18:09, harpeur <harpolekare at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jean-Michel Guilcher compared the Trihory with a lot of Breton folk
> dances and came to the conclusion that it is very closely related to the
> Dañs tro".
> >
> > Reference:
> > Jean-Michel Guilcher (1963): La tradition populaire de danse en
> Basse-Bretagne, Paris, École pratique des Hautes Études [latest edition:
> Spézet, Coop Breiz, 2007], page 291 f.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the original Breton name "Dañs tro" has been largely
> replaced during 20th century by the French name "gavotte" which was
> subsequently bretonised into "gavotenn".
> > Don't confuse it with the renaissance gavotte in Arbeau which is a
> different dance.
> > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%C3%B1s_tro
> >
> >
> > Guilcher's theory goes as follows:
> > The Trihori de Bretagne has three movements with heel in the air (hausse
> talon) with R-L-R on beats 6-and-7:
> >
> > 1 2 3 4  5  6&7 8
> > L R L R L+R RLR__
> >
> > the Breton "Dañs tro" collected in Calanhel has three movements with
> heel in the air on beats 5-and-6:
> >
> > 1 2 3 4 5&6 7 8
> > L R L R LRL R__
> >
> > the Breton "Dañs tro" collected in Maël-Carhaix has three movements with
> heel in the air on beats 4-and-5:
> >
> > 1 2 3 4&5 6 7 8
> > L R L RLR L R__
> >
> > the Breton "Dañs tro" collected at Quimper has three movements with heel
> in the air on beats 3-and-4:
> >
> > 1 2 3et4 5 6 7 8
> > L R LRL  R L R__
> > and you will find this same step sequence in the "Dañs tro" from the
> mountains, which has conquered all festoù-noz (Breton folk dance nights) by
> the name "gavotte de montagne" during the 20th century and is nowadays
> known even outside Brittany.
> >
> > J.
> >
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