[SCA-Dance] [sca-dance] NEW - Alternate source for ECD

Alexander Clark alexbclark at pennswoods.net
Sun Feb 28 16:37:21 EST 2010

This is very interesting. I see that this manuscript agrees with
Sloane about the formation for Jack Pudding, but has a third
description of the figures that doesn't seem to agree entirely with
either Playford or Sloane. But the last figure (which Sloane omitted)
seems to be at least as close to Playford as the other figures, if not
closer, and this seems to support my opinion that Playford's
description of the figure could have been intended to be done in the
formation from the manuscripts.

Henry of Maldon/Alex Clark

On 2/26/10, sarah scroggie <sarah.scroggie at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dancers
>      The other day I was doing my semi-regular search for new Gresley Dance
> articles when I came across the name Carol Marsh, in association with a
> manuscript known either as the "Pattricke Manuscript" or the "Lovelace
> Manuscript" . On further searching I discovered that this manuscript, from a
> Harvard collection, contains descriptions for 32 English country dances,
> possibly written down before 1649, many of which are the same as Playford
> dances with slightly different descriptions (details outlined in the article
> below) there is a micro film of the original available at the Harvard
> Library (which Greg found the reference for) if any one has access to that
> archive.
> http://discovery.lib.harvard.edu//?itemid=|library%2fm%2faleph|009342935<http://discovery.lib.harvard.edu//?itemid=%7Clibrary%2fm%2faleph%7C009342935>
> Carol Marsh wrote a tantalizing preliminary article in 2004
> http://fagisis.zeddele.de/morgenroete-pdfs/Marsh_.pdf
> Marsh promises a complete transcription of the manuscript but it does not
> yet seem to be forthcoming.
> The google book that I originally found the reference in is :The Early
> Stuart Masque: Dance, Costume, and Music  By Barbara
> Ravelhofer<http://books.google.com/books?id=4UiAXq5SC7QC&lpg=PA36&ots=rcmh0UiQlr&dq=gresley%20Dance&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q=&f=false>.
> This seems to be a very well researched book with a number of newer
> references which I had not seen before.
> There is now much further work which can be done in comparison of the
> different sources and even a few new dances to try once we have a
> transcription of the original text, but I thought you would all be excited
> to finally have another view point.
> My further searching turn up, what is not new, but may not be know to a
> wider audience, that there were a number of other previously known
> manuscripts with descriptions of one or more English county Dances in them -
> I have yet to come across a full transcription for any of them.
> Key 17th c English county Dance sources:
> Playford Dancing Master
> British Museum Library, Ms. Sloane 3858 (undated) (see Patri's LOD Article
> http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/lod/vol1/patriparson.html<http://www.pbm.com/%7Elindahl/lod/vol1/patriparson.html>
> )
> British Library MS Lansdowne 1115 (fols. 35-8) contains four unamed Dances
> with patterns of the dancers initial positions.
> (Ravelhofer,2006)<http://books.google.com/books?id=4UiAXq5SC7QC&dq=gresley+Dance&source=gbs_navlinks_s>
>  Emma Dansmeyla
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