[SCA-Dance] Early Tudor Dance

Niki janeeve2001 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 27 20:22:58 EDT 2008

Along the same lines, I recently found this: 
  From The History of English Dramatic Poetry to the Time of Shakespeare: And Annals of the State to the Restoration, by J. Payne collier, Esq. FSA:
  “In what respects a “disguising” differed from a “mumming” is a point not now perhaps possible to settle.  The following minute and curious account of the mode in which ‘a disguising,’ both by men and women, was to be brought in and regulated on Twelfth-night, is copied from one of the Fairfax MSS., entitle, ‘the booke of all maner of Orders concernynge and Erles hous,’ &c., some part of which is dated 16 Henry VII., although the handwriting appears to be that of the latter end of the reign of Henry VIII.  It provides, first, that the disguising shall not come into the hall until the ‘Interlude comedy or Tragedy’ is ended: it then proceeds thus – 
  ‘The Disguisers to come in aftir this manour following, with iij torcheis to be borne before theim at their riding into the Hall, with iij yomen waiters suche as shalbe appointed by the Marshallis to do it.
  ‘Furst iij youman waiters to beir iij torchies to light them into the hall, and when the saide Disguisars ar comyn into the hall, than the saide parsonnes that berith the saide lightes to make their obeysaunce and departe, or ellis to stand on side, and the iiij minstrallis, suche as the Lord haith at that tyme, there to stoned in the hall before the saide desguisars com, and assoon as they be comyn into the hall, the minstrallis to stand aside and play – And than the disguisars to make their obeysaunce altogeder and daunce suche daunces as they be appointed – And when the saide disguisars hath doon their saide dauances, than halfe of them to stand upon the oon side and halfe upon the outher side, if there be no women.  Provided always that if their be women disguised, then they to com in first.  And if there be women disguised, then half of the minstrallis aforesaid to set in the outhir disguisars with the lightes after they have browght in the women, and they have
 daunced and their obeysaunce made, ande stande a side.  And they to do as the outhir did before, ande than they to stande upon the outher side.  Always the men gevinge to the women the prehemynence of the standnge.  Alwais provided that the minstrallis shall bring theym in, playing before thaym such dances as they shall daunce.  Ande when they have doon, in like cass the Morris to come in incontinent as it appointed, yf any be ordynid.  And when the saide Morris arrives in the midist of the hall, than the said minstrallis to play the daunces that is appointed for theim.  And when they here the said minstrallis play, then to com out oon aftir the outhir, as they be appointed.  And when they have doon, to go furth inlike cass as they came into the saide towre, or thing devised for theim.  Always reserveid to the maister of the disguisinges to order it as he shall thing best and convenient: and when the said Moris is done, than the gentillmen to come unto the women and ake
 their obeisaunce, and every of them to taike oon by thand, and daunce suche bae daunces as is appointed theym; and that doon than to daunce such rounds as shall be appointed them to daunce togeder by the maister of the revills; and that doon to bring the women to their plaices agayne, make their obeysaunces, and then departe to their owne places where they stood before.’
  Lady Jane

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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph Cook 
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> "A single choreography survives in an early Tudor
> moot book of Lincoln's Inn, glossed as 'the old 

Fascinating! Have you managed to find a copy of the
Lincoln's Inn? I would be fascinated to see how it

> The howe of the howse [margin: or the old measure]
> Fyrst half turn and undo yt agayn, flower, iij
> forth, the fyrst man and
> second folowe, flower and roll into other placys,
> hole turn, flower, and
> then roll into other placys.[44]"

"Flower"? Again, FASCINATING! I have been mulling
over and over one whether the "fleurdelice" is in fact
like a fleuret or movimento. This interesting
reference to a "flower" creates yet another good link
to the fleuret idea.

> It also mentions that a 15th century carol (Nowell
> Nowell) proceeds the dance description, and gives 
> 1390 and 1491 literary references to "houe 
> daunce"/"hovedaunce".

Where DO you find this stuff?! Fascinating!


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