[SCA-BMDL] February Business Meeting

Wed Feb 13 19:53:33 EST 2019

If I might make a further suggestion:

Perhaps punctuation, capitalization, and other corrections that do not
change the meaning or intent of any portion of the policies could be
addressed first as a separate effort.

I myself find markup mode confusing and annoying, and it is even more so
when minor changes are thrown into the mix.

Elss

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 3:01 PM Monica Cellio <cellio at pobox.com wrote:

> Thank you for this enlightenment, Mistress Hildarun.  As you probably
> surmised, when I followed the link from the blog post, I saw a document
> with no markup and no indication of how to see any markup/comments/changes.
>
> In the future, I don't think we should expect people to know/remember that
> you can't just click on the link but you have to download, and then run
> Word (what about those of us who don't have Word?), and then turn on some
> special mode, and only *then* can you see whether the change is to fix a
> typo or revamp elections.  I think we'd all agree that the point of posting
> proposed policy changes for review is to get feedback from people actually
> reviewing them, so let's not impede that from the start.
>
> In the future, could proposed policy changes be provided in the form of a
> PDF that shows the changes?  This is what I'm used to from other groups
> that can't just use an online collaboration tool like Google Docs.  Plus, I
> suspect the seneschal's records would need to include a copy of what was
> sent out for review, so somebody needs to generate that static copy
> anyway.  Or, if the changes are small, you could do what the Board does and
> just send out the current and proposed new text for specific sections.
> Whatever the format, we should be aiming for: person reads blog post,
> person clicks link, person sees actual proposed changes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> She'erah
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM Krista Cogan <krista.cogan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I love interest in policy discussions!!
>>
>> In this case, the people at the Business meeting did discuss the proposed
>> changes, but it was just a discussion.
>>
>> Our intrepid and hard-working Seneschale posted the proposed changes to
>> the website through that link in the blog on Feb 4th and Feb 6th. Namely,
>> the proposed changes are found here:
>> http://debatablelands.org/blog/?p=2899, by clicking on the linked page
>> to "proposed policy changes", and the post published on Feb 4th, here
>> http://debatablelands.org/blog/?p=2896.
>>
>> I feel it important to note that, when a blog (Storfrettir) post is
>> published, it is automatically sent to the mailing list using a WordPress
>> plug in. However, the LINKS in the body of the blog post do not translate
>> to the email list, other than email addresses. You have to click to view
>> the post directly to see the links on the blog.
>>
>> To address Mistress She'erah's question directly, it looks like there is
>> a weird Microsoft tech thingy at play. Viewing the document from the Feb
>> 4th post in Word Online did not show the mark-up* of the policy. However,
>> if you download the document, open it in Word, and (from the Review tab,
>> Tracking section) change the mark-up from "Simple Markup" to "All Markup",
>> you can see the proposed changes. (This very thing has caught many of my
>> mundane work colleagues as we transition to Office 365... it's a Thing
>> (tm)).
>>
>> ~H
>>
>> * For that that haven't heard the term, "Mark-ups" are changes to a
>> document in which old verbiage is crossed out but still legible, and new
>> verbiage is added in a different color, plus sometimes notes are added to
>> the side.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 1:15 PM Gretchen R Beck <cmupythia at cmu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the point is that if there are proposed changes these should be
>>> available beforehand (and the meeting noted a discussion of proposed
>>> changes which raises the question). If there were no proposed changes, why
>>> did the agenda note "discussion of proposed policy changes"?
>>>
>>>
>>> toodles, margaret
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Sca-bmdl <sca-bmdl-bounces+grm+=
>>> andrew.cmu.edu at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Elss Augsburg <
>>> elss.of.augsburg at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:10 PM
>>> *To:* sca-bmdl
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SCA-BMDL] February Business Meeting
>>>
>>> A further note on this inquiry:
>>>
>>> No changes to the policies were made at the business meeting.
>>>
>>> The scheneshal can provide the information regarding changes.
>>>
>>> Elss
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 4:38 PM Monica Cellio <cellio at pobox.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I submitted a comment on this blog post a week ago and it has neither
>>>> appeared nor been answered, so I'll ask here.
>>>>
>>>> The agenda for this meeting referred to policy changes, but the link
>>>> was to a full copy of a policy document.  (Current or proposed, I couldn't
>>>> tell, and I saw no changes called out.)  What policy changes are the
>>>> officers proposing?
>>>>
>>>> She'erah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:18 AM Stórfréttir Updates <
>>>> admin at debatablelands.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is new Baronial News at the Stórfréttir!
>>>>>
>>>>> February Business Meeting
>>>>> Posted by: Odriana vander Brugghe
>>>>>
>>>>> The next Business Meeting for the Barony-Marche of the Debatable Lands
>>>>> will be this Wednesday, 6 February from 8:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m. at
>>>>> Allegheny Unitarian Universalist Church (416 W North Ave, Pittsburgh, PA
>>>>> 15212 - map). The Agenda will be:1. Open Meeting2. Approve Meetings from
>>>>> Previous Meeting3. Officer’s Reports4. Review of Policies, discussion of
>>>>> proposed policy changes5. Letters of Intent for Comet Persuivant6. Letters
>>>>> of Intent for A&S Minister7. Close Meeting If you have any additional
>>>>> Agenda items please send them to Odriana at
>>>>> seneschal(at)debatablelands(dot)org. The Officers of the Debatable Lands
>>>>> are elected by the membership and is made up of members of the populace,
>>>>> just like you. The Officers are responsible for ensuring that the policies
>>>>> of the Kingdom and Barony are followed and are accountable to the populace
>>>>> of the Debatable Lands. The Business meeting is open to everyone in the
>>>>> Barony and attendance by the populace is encouraged. Have a thought you’d
>>>>> like to share with the Officers? Email seneschal at debatablelands.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> To see or comment on this post on the Stórfréttir, click here:
>>>>> http://debatablelands.org/blog/?p=2896.
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