Cyrus Murder Environment Upgrade

Nic Bernstein nic at nicbernstein.com
Wed Jun 10 14:56:41 EDT 2020


Miguel,
That's perfectly normal, and I think it's even covered in the release 
notes... Nope, I'm wrong, the release notes mention the larger Memory 
footprint, due to more data and metadata being cached in memory.  But 
the on-disk size increases, too, as there is more information being held 
in indexes, etc.

The same is true, again, when going from 2.5 to 3.X

Cheers,
     -nic

On 6/10/20 1:47 PM, Miguel Mucio Santos Moreira wrote:
> Wolfgang,
>
> If you don't mind, I'd like to know if when you upgraded backend 
> servers from 2.4 version to 2.5 version you have an increase, in 
> metadata size.Here we had 30% around of increase
>
> Thanks one more time
>
> Greetings
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> distribuição. Em Terça, Junho 09, 2020 10:39 -03, Wolfgang Breyha 
> <wbreyha at gmx.net> escreveu:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 09/06/2020 14:56, Miguel Mucio Santos Moreira wrote:
>> > Dear Wolfgang,
>> >
>> > Firstly thanks for your answer, secondly I have one more doubt, 
>> during this
>> > time where the new Mupdate Master is receiving mailboxes 
>> information from
>> > backend servers, is necessary stopping comunications between frontend
>> > servers and mupdate master or none action is necessary besides that one
>> > you've mentioned before?
>> > We're concerned if frontend servers will connect to Mupdate Master and
>> > receive from it an information which there's no mailboxes anymore 
>> until the
>> > backend push entirely mailboxes information and this situation to 
>> cause any
>> > trouble.
>>
>> I recommend the follow steps:
>> *) check that your currently running setup has no conflicts in 
>> mailboxes.db
>> by running "ctl_mboxlist -mw". It is possible that you see output if
>> somebody changes his mailboxes while you run the command, but it should
>> not appear again if you run the command a second time. If everything is
>> fine...
>>
>> *) shut down all running cyrus
>> frontends first, then backends and mupdate last
>> *) backup your mailboxes.db on mupdate server
>> *) replace/update mupdate and start it with empty/removed mailboxes.db.
>> *) backup your mailboxes.db on the backends
>> *) do the ctl_mboxlist -m by hand on the backends (only one at the same
>> time) you can check if everything went ok with "-mw" at any time
>> afterwards.
>> *) start cyrus on backends
>>
>> In our setup the frontends have mupdate running as well. I can't 
>> currently
>> remember if this is mandatory. If this is true in your setup then:
>> *) remove or rename the mailboxes.db database on the frontends and start
>> them. They will fetch the database immediately from the mupdate server.
>> This is visible in syslog as well and takes about 30 seconds in our
>> setup (~250MB mailboxes.db).
>> otherwise
>> *) start the frontends
>>
>> At this point everything should be up and running again.
>>
>> Watching syslog output all the time usually helps.
>>
>> IIRC we updated the mupdate server to 2.5 first. Then we had a mix of 2.4
>> and 2.5 backends for some time. The 2.5 backends had some capabilities
>> suppressed. Frontends had 2.4 until all backends had 2.5. Last but not
>> least we upgraded to 2.5 on the frontends.
>>
>> If you need more info/details feel free to ask.
>>
>> Greetings, Wolfgang
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>> Wolfgang Breyha <wbreyha at gmx.net> | https://www.blafasel.at/
>> Vienna University Computer Center | Austria
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