user rename and uidvalidity value

[Hamada, Ondrej]

Thank you for clearing it up

Let's imagine for a while that we handle the renaming of entire user and don't change the uidvalidity in such case - would it have any impact on replication (sync_client, sync_server)?

Ondra

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From: info-cyrus-bounces+ondrej.hamada=acision.com at lists.andrew.cmu.edu [mailto:info-cyrus-bounces+ondrej.hamada=acision.com at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Bron Gondwana
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:37 PM
To: info-cyrus at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: user rename and uidvalidity value

Yep, pretty much all that.

Of course, we now (master branch) have tombstone records in mailboxes.db which do hold the old uidvalidity for a time.

It's also not quite so hard a requirement as the RFC suggests - the RFC applies to what an authenticated user can see, and at least in theory, if you delete user B and then rename user A to user B, the password will be different, and the original user B will never be able to see those mailboxes - so it really doesn't matter that you reuse the UIDVALIDITY.

So maybe renaming an entire user is a special case.  But that would involve educating the Cyrus code about the fact that it's a user rename, right down to the low levels where the uidvalidity gets re-created.

Bron.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Vladimir Klejch wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> partly diskussed in:
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365651#c4
>
> snip ---
>
> ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3501.txt
> 6.3.5.  RENAME Command
>        The value of the highest-used unique identifier of the old mailbox
>        name MUST be preserved so that a new mailbox created with the same
>        name will not reuse the identifiers of the former incarnation,
>        UNLESS the new incarnation has a different unique identifier
>        validity value.  See the description of the UID command for more
>        detail.
>
>
> If IMAP server returns same "unique identifier validity value" after
> rename,  IMAP server MUST preserve "highest-used unique identifier".
>
> snip ---
>
>
>
>
> the problem is, where to store the old "highest-used unique identifier"
> for the same mailboxname, if reused  ??
>
> the logical solution is to generate new uidvalidity for renamed
> mailbox, that guarantees, that in case of existing previous mailbox
> with the same name, that the change to other content is recognized ..
>
>
>
>  Cheers
>  Kleo
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, Hamada, Ondrej wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Can you please explain to me, why is a new value of uidvalidity generated when a user is renamed in cyrus_imapd?
> >
> > Rename:
> > A001 rename user/a at bbb.c<mailto:user/a at bbb.c>om user/x at bbb.com
> >
> > Before rename:
> > A001 select inbox
> > * OK [CLOSED] Ok
> > * 3 EXISTS
> > * 0 RECENT
> > * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen)
> > * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)]
> > Ok
> > * OK [UNSEEN 2] Ok
> > * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1415092196] Ok
> > * OK [UIDNEXT 4] Ok
> > * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 5] Ok
> > * OK [URLMECH INTERNAL] Ok
> > A001 OK [READ-WRITE] Completed
> >
> > After rename:
> > A001 select inbox
> > * 3 EXISTS
> > * 0 RECENT
> > * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen)
> > * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)]
> > Ok
> > * OK [UNSEEN 2] Ok
> > * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1415093437] Ok
> > * OK [UIDNEXT 4] Ok
> > * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 7] Ok
> > * OK [URLMECH INTERNAL] Ok
> > A001 OK [READ-WRITE] Completed
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > Ondra
> >
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