pop3d proxy

Michael J Farina mfarina at cvzoom.net
Mon Mar 15 14:06:02 EST 2004


I am still chasing this pop3 problem. I have now tried PLAIN+TLS for proxy
authentication. I see the same issue of pop3 proxy being slow. With more
investigation I see that I can open alot of connections on the frontend
server but they don't see to get passed to the backend. I have tried
starting master with a -l 1024 and in my cyrus.conf I have preforked 50
pop3d and maxchild=-1. Nothing seems to make the connection counts greater.
Could I be hitting some max connection per IP limit that I can't see when I
connect directly to the backend?


--Mike




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael J Farina" <mfarina at cvzoom.net>
To: "Ken Murchison" <ken at oceana.com>
Cc: <info-cyrus at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: pop3d proxy


> It seems that the delay is in the connection. I have played with the
backlog
> queue, the max child, and prefork settings without being able to make it
any
> faster. I am logging in a doing a list command. The mailboxes are all
empty
> so I am not thinking that once the connection is authed it is slow. It is
> just getting the frontend to open enough connections to the backend. I
can't
> seem to nail down what the problem is. If I connect the stress test to the
> backend it is very fast less than a second a connection. If I can provide
> anymore info let me know. I am looking to have over 150,000 boxes they are
> all pop now but I want to offer IMAP.
>
> --Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Murchison" <ken at oceana.com>
> To: "Michael J Farina" <mfarina at cvzoom.net>
> Cc: <info-cyrus at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: pop3d proxy
>
>
> > Michael J Farina wrote:
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > >     Is there a way to do PLAIN from the frontends to the backends? The
> > > servers I am testing are on a isolated network no network traffic
other
> than
> > > the mail servers. Any help would be appreciated. sasl_maximum_layer:0
> didn't
> > > seem to change the pop3 proxy timing. The server are also dual 1.4s
with
> 2
> > > gigs of ram if that helps at all.
> >
> > You can do PLAIN, but the frontends will also need to use TLS, since
> > PLAIN won't be advertised by the backends unless a security layer is in
> > place.
> >
> > Are you saying that there is a delay for every command, or for every
> > login?  Is your stress test only doing one command per login?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Ken Murchison" <ken at oceana.com>
> > > To: "Michael J Farina" <mfarina at cvzoom.net>
> > > Cc: <info-cyrus at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: pop3d proxy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Michael J Farina wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I am setting up a cyrus imap murder for a large number of accounts.
In
> > >
> > > my
> > >
> > >>>stress testing I have noticed that the pop3 proxy has quite a delay.
> > >
> > > When I
> > >
> > >>>connect directly to a backend I can check mail at a very fast rate
> about
> > >
> > > .5
> > >
> > >>>secs a mailbox. When I connect to the proxy the wait time increases a
> > >
> > > ton to
> > >
> > >>>about 5 secs. I am thinking I must have a configuration problem. I
will
> > >>>include my imapd.conf and my cyrus.conf I am using cyrus 2.2.3.
> > >>
> > >>Once you authenticate and the mailbox is opened on the backend, the
> > >>proxy just acts as a bitpipe between the client and backend, so there
> > >>should be very little overhead.
> > >>
> > >>You *might* be seeing a slowdown because the frontend is
authenticating
> > >>to the backend using DIGEST-MD5 with a security layer or TLS+PLAIN.
In
> > >>either case you have encrypt/decrypt overhead.
> > >>
> > >>If using DIGEST-MD5, you could try setting sasl_maximum_layer:0 on the
> > >>backend, which will prevent the security layer from being negotiated.
> > >>
> > >>Otherwise, the only other delay that I could think of would be network
> > >>related.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Frontend cyrus.conf
> > >>>
> > >>>START {
> > >>>  mboxlist      cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r"
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>># UNIX sockets start with a slash and are put into /var/imap/sockets
> > >>>SERVICES {
> > >>>  # mupdate database service - must prefork atleast 1
> > >>>  mupdate       cmd="/usr/cyrus/bin/mupdate -m" listen=3905 prefork=1
> > >>>
> > >>>  # add or remove based on preferences
> > >>>  imap          cmd="proxyd" listen="imap" prefork=5
> > >>>  pop3          cmd="pop3proxyd" listen="pop3" prefork=5 maxchild=-1
> > >>>  sieve         cmd="timsieved" listen="sieve" prefork=0
> > >>>
> > >>>  lmtp          cmd="lmtpproxyd" listen="/var/imap/socket/lmtp"
> > >
> > > prefork=0
> > >
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>EVENTS {
> > >>>  checkpoint    cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=5
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>Frontend imapd.conf
> > >>>
> > >>>configdirectory: /var/imap
> > >>>partition-default: /tmp
> > >>>admins: cyrus
> > >>>sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
> > >>>allowplaintext: 1
> > >>>mupdate_admin: murder
> > >>>mupdate_server: frontend
> > >>>mupdate_password: murder pass
> > >>>proxy_authname: proxy
> > >>>proxy_password: proxy pass
> > >>>unixhierarchysep: 1
> > >>>sasl_mech_list: PLAIN
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Backend cyrus.conf
> > >>>
> > >>>START {
> > >>>  recover       cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r"
> > >>>  mupdatepush   cmd="ctl_mboxlist -m"
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>># UNIX sockets start with a slash and are put into /var/imap/sockets
> > >>>SERVICES {
> > >>>  # add or remove based on preferences
> > >>>  imap          cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=5
> > >>>  pop3          cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=0  maxchild=-1
> > >>>
> > >>>  # at least one LMTP is required for delivery
> > >>>  lmtp          cmd="lmtpd" listen="lmtp" prefork=2
> > >>>
> > >>>}
> > >>>EVENTS {
> > >>>  # this is required
> > >>>  checkpoint    cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=5
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>Backend imapd.conf
> > >>>
> > >>>configdirectory: /var/imap
> > >>>partition-default: /var/spool/imap
> > >>>admins: cyrus
> > >>>mupdate_server: frontend
> > >>>mupdate_authname: murder
> > >>>mupdate_password: murder pass
> > >>>
> > >>>allowplaintext: yes
> > >>>sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
> > >>>sasl_mech_list: PLAIN DIGEST-MD5
> > >>>proxyservers: proxy
> > >>>unixhierarchysep: 1
> > >>>defaultacl: anyone rsd
> > >>>
> > >>>
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