Sieve issue marking messages "Read"

Ken Murchison ken at
Mon Nov 3 21:41:05 EST 2003

Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

> --On Monday, November 03, 2003 8:01 PM -0500 Ken Murchison 
> <ken at> wrote:
>> Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> The mail server I use here at Stanford was recently upgraded to include
>>> timsieved.  It is running without any local modifications.  I'm now
>>> doing testing of its functionality, and I've noticed that for a few of
>>> my mailboxes, the messages are marked "read" after being stored into
>>> their folder.  Is this a known issue?  Is there something I need to do
>>> to prevent this from happening?
>> The fileinto does not alter the messages flags at all.  You *can* do this
>> with the imapflags extension, but by default a fileinto essentially
>> behaves as if the message was delivered directly.  This is probably
>> another client that is changing the flags.
> This is the Sieve version according to the headers in the messages:
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
> Testing 3 different ways of sending mail (mulberry, our webmail system, 
> and command line unix using Sendmail), I still find the messages end up 
> in their destination being marked "read" already, using 2 different 
> clients to read (Mulberry & our webmail system).  I can try the OS X 
> Mailapp tomorrow as well, but I'm getting the feeling I'm not going to 
> see anything different.  So the issue still stands, and it still only 
> effects some folders and not others.

Its possible that the seen state database is corrupted and that is was 
is causing some folders to show all new messages as read.  You could 
test this by moving your seen state database out of the way temporarily.

Kenneth Murchison     Oceana Matrix Ltd.
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716-662-8973 x26      Orchard Park, NY 14127
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