[ECE PhiBar] Startups in the Bay

Doug Robl drobl at andrew.cmu.edu
Sat Mar 7 12:38:22 EST 2009 

Boris,

I applaud your decision and your courage.  Lesser men would have given in in such a situation, but you held your ground.  While your choice of phrase to allow your exit was less than perfect, under extreme duress such as that we can't expect you to supply your usual wit.  What you gave was effective and was consistent with the expectations of those in our profession.  

I'm all for buying women drinks, but Genevieve does not fit into that category.  Let me provide proof.  It is a well known fact that all women passionately hate the c-word (I do not dare mention it for fear of incurring years of bad female karma).  On no less than two occasions, Genevieve referred to herself as said c-word without flinching.  That's impossible for a woman to do, therefore Genevieve is not a woman.  Q.E.D.

We can only guess what her motivations were in asking you for a drink.  I will let that be known as one of life's mysteries.

I'm looking forward to carnival.  I hope there are crazy straws.

-Doug

> I'd have bought her a drink.  What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
> 
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Jonathan Cornell
> <cornell.jonathan at gmail.com
>> wrote:
> 
>> I approve. I would have spent the $1.50 for repeats of Free Bird on the
>> way out but I don't show up on Wednesdays anymore.
>> 
>> -Cornell- Show quoted text -
>> 
>> 
>> Boris Lipchin wrote:
>> 
>>> Not Jennifer, Genevieve rather, sorry. Mis-written.
>>> 
>>> Boris Lipchin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Now that conversation has turned to Jennifer, I'm going to have to
>>>> tell you guys a story.
>>>> 
>>>> It was Thursday night, I had left my credit card at Phi Bar the
>>>> night before, as I had used it as a tab. Upon arriving to Phi Bar
>>>> and seeing Genevieve behind the bar I made eye contact and was about
>>>> to start talking when Genevieve preempted me with a "I'm not working
>>>> right now." At which point I turned to the other bar tended to ask
>>>> for my credit card back. However, I was once more preempted by
>>>> Genevieve's "Oh, did you ever get your credit card back?" I had to
>>>> tell her that I had not, and I was in the process of doing so. She
>>>> immediately awarded me something that might have been a smile and
>>>> said "Oh that's fine, I'll get it, it's upstairs" and ran off. She
>>>> came back moments later and handed me credit card and receipt with 
>>>> the words "But you can't pay tip." I was somewhat dumbfounded at
>>>> this statement, but decided not to question it, so I reached for my
>>>> wallet where I knew I had my $2 in cash, previously meant for
>>>> Mountain Dew in the Hammerschlag vending machine, but now would have
>>>> to be handed over to Phi Bar if I ever want to get drinks there
>>>> again. Upon seeing my wallet Genevieve did something that perhaps
>>>> none of us expected. She, now standing on my side of the bar, sat
>>>> down, leaned on the bar sideways facing me and said "Why don't you
>>>> just buy me a drink instead, I'm not working tonight." Thunder on a
>>>> clear day rang, and I suddenly realized that it was time to make a
>>>> decision that will have serious consequences whichever way I went. 
>>>> However, Heer and Many where patiently waiting outside, so my hand
>>>> was forced. "Sorry, I'm actually kind of busy, gotta run" earned a
>>>> disapproving stare that did little to improve when padded with my
>>>> last $2 (I wasn't willing to part with the $10). I quickly escaped
>>>> from the bar, and satisfied that we weren't being pursued, returned
>>>> to the safety of the cluster.
>>>> 
>>>> Your thoughts? This is all true by the way.
>>>> 
>>>> Boris
>>>> 
>>>> Jesse Guss wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Now, I love messing with Genevieve as much as the next guy.  In
>>>>> fact, my irrational love of Free Bird is almost entirely a result
>>>>> of how angry she gets when someone puts it on the Juke box.  I
>>>>> started this email intending to defend Genevieve and chastise you
>>>>> for being such a cad, but the energy I spent phrasing the second
>>>>> sentence made me forget why I cared.  Who will be responsible for
>>>>> providing the curly straws during carnival?  She /hates/ that. On
>>>>> Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan Cornell < 
>>>>> cornell.jonathan at gmail.com <mailto:cornell.jonathan at gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I miss the days when Phi-Bar was about Blue Moon specials before 
>>>>> the drink tax and a night was not complete without finding a 
>>>>> reason to not give Genevieve a tip. I expect a complete 180 come 
>>>>> carnival.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <3 Cornell
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jesse Guss wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Show quoted text - Did anyone else see Boris's email long
>>>>>> before Dmitriy's?  Did anyone else notice that the possessive
>>>>>> versions of Russian names look silly?  Is anyone else concerned
>>>>>> that the ece-phi list is no longer being used for its intended
>>>>>> purpose?  That last one's probably my fault.  I've just been
>>>>>> hijacking threads this week. There's no stopping me. Oh, hey, a
>>>>>> foreign national just sent you an email with "Boris" "Russian"
>>>>>> and "hijacking" in it.  Congratulations, you've been blacklisted
>>>>>> by the US Government!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Boris Lipchin 
>>>>>> <blipchin at ece.cmu.edu <mailto:blipchin at ece.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Excellent. This is going to be the deal from now on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For every startup company contact I get, you win 2 beers from me
>>>>>> the next time I'm in your area, and if you're in the bay area 
>>>>>> I'll be up there a whole bunch. So you can accrue quite a
>>>>>> treasure if you try. And since this is all over email it's very
>>>>>> easy to keep good score. Not to mention you guys know I'm good
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Repeat companies, if it's a different contact win you only 1 
>>>>>> beer after the first contact.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let the games begin. =) Dimitry currently has 2 beers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dmitriy Solomonov wrote:
>>>>>>> I know of a good startup for that, NgMoco. They are an iPhone
>>>>>>> game company, but most of their success and business resides
>>>>>>> on good marketing and business strategy to
>>>>>> push out
>>>>>>> games rather than a bunch of hackers in a room
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Boris Lipchin
>>>>>> <blipchin at ece.cmu.edu <mailto:blipchin at ece.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>> <mailto:blipchin at ece.cmu.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:blipchin at ece.cmu.edu>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> She does a lot of business work, business plan
>>>>>> development, and would
>>>>>>> actually be of considerable help to a company. Many a
>>>>>> company have
>>>>>>> failed because they haven't had good 
>>>>>>> entrepreneurship/business/economics sense. I'll chat with
>>>>>>> Bowei, thank guys. =)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Heer Robin Gandhi wrote:
>>>>>>>> After Susan Bowei is your second best bet in Cali.
>>>>>> His email is
>>>>>>> bowei.gai at gmail.com <mailto:bowei.gai at gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:bowei.gai at gmail.com <mailto:bowei.gai at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He'll help out for sure.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Heer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "non-engineering" isn't a field, and startups are
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>> avoid spending money on account of how there isn't
>>>>>> going to be
>>>>>>> any more
>>>>>>>>> for them in the foreseeable future.  I'd talk to
>>>>>> Bowai, though,
>>>>>>> he knows
>>>>>>>>> everybody.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have no idea how to contact him.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Kendall Lowrey 
>>>>>>>>> <klowrey at andrew.cmu.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:klowrey at andrew.cmu.edu> <mailto:klowrey at andrew.cmu.edu 
>>>>>> <mailto:klowrey at andrew.cmu.edu>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Walk around the bay area saying, "la-di-da-di-da,
>>>>>> i'm a venture
>>>>>>>>>> capitalist looking for young impressionable
>>>>>> startup-ers to
>>>>>>> pour money
>>>>>>>>>> on!" - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Kartik Subramanian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Start one!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Boris Lipchin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> An old friend of mine is looking for startups in
>>>>>> the bay
>>>>>>> area to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> some work (non-engineering) related. Does anyone
>>>>>> have a good
>>>>>>>>>>>> resource of where to find these 10-15 engineer
>>>>>> companies? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps, personal recommendations would also work
>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> great. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> ultimate question of the day is, how does one
>>>>>> find startups?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Boris
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