alice-teacher Please change my email (for list)

Phil Tessier ptessier1958 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 2 19:49:58 EDT 2024


Sara,
Not to speak for the administrators, but I think you can do that at:
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 6:46 PM Sara Masters <pleasantphrases at gmail.com>
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> Hi,
>
> Could you please change my email to
> *pleasantphrases at gmail.com <pleasantphrases at gmail.com>*
>
> Thanks,
> Sara
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 12:04 PM <
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>>    1. Re:  Deriving classes? (Vanderhyde, James)
>>    2. Re:  Deriving classes? (Ziccardi, Adam)
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>> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:43:44 +0000
>> From: "Vanderhyde, James" <vanderhyde at sxu.edu>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Deriving classes?
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>> Phil, welcome to the group. The problem you describe really threw me for
>> a loop when I started using Alice 3.
>>
>> I think the video you watched might have been for Alice 2, or maybe the
>> person who made it was still thinking in Alice 2 terms. Try this video:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zITzfZkpxR8
>>
>> There is actually no way to create your own class in Alice 3. It?s not
>> object oriented in that sense. What you can do is create methods for one of
>> the existing classes, export the methods, and import them into the same
>> class in a different project, like Don does in the video.
>>
>> If you want to see what Alice is doing with the classes and objects, I
>> recommend exporting the Alice 3 project to NetBeans, and then opening it in
>> NetBeans. You?ll see that the project has injected classes into the
>> hierarchy. Alice 3 allows you to modify those injected classes with new
>> methods, but you can?t inject your own classes.
>>
>> You can do whatever you want in Java in NetBeans, but you can?t bring it
>> back into Alice.
>>
>> James
>> ?
>> James Vanderhyde
>> Associate Professor
>> Computer Science
>> Saint Xavier University
>> 3700 W. 103rd St.
>> Chicago, IL 60655
>> 773-298-3454
>> vanderhyde at sxu.edu
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>> On Oct 31, 2024, at 9:25?AM, Phil Tessier <ptessier1958 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, all!
>>
>> This is my first post, having just joined the mailing list. I looked
>> through the archives, but didn't find anything related to my question.
>> I'm new to Alice3, having started with it for the purpose of
>> homeschooling my girls in programming. I'm an experienced OOP programmer,
>> mostly C++ these days.
>>
>> I want to create my own class, the properties and methods of which would
>> be available to other classes. I found a tutorial online, which purports to
>> do this. One of the important steps of that method is to Export my object,
>> *with a new name*. But, while I'm able to export my object, the Export
>> dialog doesn't provide a "rename" option. What am I missing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
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>> From: "Ziccardi, Adam" <aziccardi at opschools.org>
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>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Deriving classes?
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>> Hi Phil,
>> Welcome aboard and Alice 3 is a great choice. I would like to see the
>> tutorial you are using as I am unfamiliar with an 'Export' option for a
>> class.
>> I used Save to Class File extensively when we enhanced classes'
>> properties,
>> functions, and procedures which has a naming allowance for the new class.
>> Also, are you making brand new classes or modifying existing?
>> Thanks
>> Adam Z
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 5:42?PM Phil Tessier <ptessier1958 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > Greetings, all!
>> >
>> > This is my first post, having just joined the mailing list. I looked
>> > through the archives, but didn't find anything related to my question.
>> > I'm new to Alice3, having started with it for the purpose of
>> homeschooling
>> > my girls in programming. I'm an experienced OOP programmer, mostly C++
>> > these days.
>> >
>> > I want to create my own class, the properties and methods of which would
>> > be available to other classes. I found a tutorial online, which
>> purports to
>> > do this. One of the important steps of that method is to Export my
>> object,
>> > *with a new name*. But, while I'm able to export my object, the Export
>> > dialog doesn't provide a "rename" option. What am I missing?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Phil
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