alice-teacher Please change my email (for list)

Sat Nov 2 18:38:31 EDT 2024

Hi,

Could you please change my email to
*pleasantphrases at gmail.com <pleasantphrases at gmail.com>*

Thanks,
Sara

On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 12:04 PM <alice-teachers-request at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> From: "Vanderhyde, James" <vanderhyde at sxu.edu>
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Deriving classes?
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> Phil, welcome to the group. The problem you describe really threw me for a
> loop when I started using Alice 3.
>
> I think the video you watched might have been for Alice 2, or maybe the
> person who made it was still thinking in Alice 2 terms. Try this video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zITzfZkpxR8
>
> There is actually no way to create your own class in Alice 3. It?s not
> object oriented in that sense. What you can do is create methods for one of
> the existing classes, export the methods, and import them into the same
> class in a different project, like Don does in the video.
>
> If you want to see what Alice is doing with the classes and objects, I
> recommend exporting the Alice 3 project to NetBeans, and then opening it in
> NetBeans. You?ll see that the project has injected classes into the
> hierarchy. Alice 3 allows you to modify those injected classes with new
> methods, but you can?t inject your own classes.
>
> You can do whatever you want in Java in NetBeans, but you can?t bring it
> back into Alice.
>
> James
> ?
> James Vanderhyde
> Associate Professor
> Computer Science
> Saint Xavier University
> 3700 W. 103rd St.
> Chicago, IL 60655
> 773-298-3454
> vanderhyde at sxu.edu
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> On Oct 31, 2024, at 9:25?AM, Phil Tessier <ptessier1958 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings, all!
>
> This is my first post, having just joined the mailing list. I looked
> through the archives, but didn't find anything related to my question.
> I'm new to Alice3, having started with it for the purpose of homeschooling
> my girls in programming. I'm an experienced OOP programmer, mostly C++
> these days.
>
> I want to create my own class, the properties and methods of which would
> be available to other classes. I found a tutorial online, which purports to
> do this. One of the important steps of that method is to Export my object,
> *with a new name*. But, while I'm able to export my object, the Export
> dialog doesn't provide a "rename" option. What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
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> From: "Ziccardi, Adam" <aziccardi at opschools.org>
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> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Deriving classes?
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> Hi Phil,
> Welcome aboard and Alice 3 is a great choice. I would like to see the
> tutorial you are using as I am unfamiliar with an 'Export' option for a
> class.
> I used Save to Class File extensively when we enhanced classes' properties,
> functions, and procedures which has a naming allowance for the new class.
> Also, are you making brand new classes or modifying existing?
> Thanks
> Adam Z
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 5:42?PM Phil Tessier <ptessier1958 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Greetings, all!
> >
> > This is my first post, having just joined the mailing list. I looked
> > through the archives, but didn't find anything related to my question.
> > I'm new to Alice3, having started with it for the purpose of
> homeschooling
> > my girls in programming. I'm an experienced OOP programmer, mostly C++
> > these days.
> >
> > I want to create my own class, the properties and methods of which would
> > be available to other classes. I found a tutorial online, which purports
> to
> > do this. One of the important steps of that method is to Export my
> object,
> > *with a new name*. But, while I'm able to export my object, the Export
> > dialog doesn't provide a "rename" option. What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil
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