alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1

Yvonne Perez yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net
Thu Feb 8 11:38:17 EST 2018


I have emailed my tech department to ask them about that... We started
trying to save to USBs this morning. Thank you for your help.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Keith Golebie <kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us>
wrote:

> Yvonne, does your IT have a 'reset' on the computers, so local data
> doesn't remain after a logout? We have that issue here on some of the
> student lab computers. Have you tried to save to an external device, like a
> USB?
>
> Mr. Golebie
>
> kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us
>
> Computer Technology Teacher
>
> Rm 201 & 202
>
> Lincoln High School
>
> Ellwood City Area School District
>
> Ellwood City PA  16117
>
> 724-752-1591 x3202 <(724)%20752-1591>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Yvonne Perez <yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for responding to me. They are saving it in the my projects
>> file but the next Day their work is gone... I have since then asked them to
>> save to other locations and the same thing occurs. They get frustrated that
>> their work deletes. We are on PCs.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Donald Slater <don at alice.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yvonne,
>> The My Projects directory that Alice 3 uses is located in the users home
>> directory on the Mac, and I believe the Documents directory of the user on
>> the PC.
>>
>> Is it possible that the permissions settings for these student
>> directories prevent access by Alice? It is possible for the students to
>> browse to other locations on the system to save the Alice projects.
>>
>> Are there other issues that you are having that I have not addressed here?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Don Slater
>>
>> Alice Project
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Yvonne Perez <yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am having trouble with student work saving in "my projects" help.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Understood.  I definitely understand the difference between the vehicle
>>> option I outlined and the panning to follow that you desire. I was just
>>> offering up a different option for a dynamic camera movement that could
>>> follow an object that you may already be using until we could implement the
>>> solution you desire.   As Don said we will definitely look into why the
>>> point at method isn't functioning during a do together in Alice 3 and so is
>>> not achieving what you want.
>>>
>>> Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yes, but I don't want the camera attached to anything. For instance
>>> "Camera move right 10" do together "point at chair" and the camera will
>>> move right 10 but not continue pointing at the chair, so the chair goes out
>>> of view. These were basic scenarios we did with camera movement in Alice
>>> 2.4, but it doesn't work the same or just doesn't work in 3.1. If that is
>>> the case, I will go back to 2.43...
>>> >
>>> > Jim Melia
>>> > Technology
>>> > Lansdowne High School
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia=
>>> bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Brown
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:50 PM
>>> > To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>>> > Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
>>> >
>>> > You could in code or in the scene editor "set camera vehicle to
>>> object”.  If in code just do it before the animation instructions.  The
>>> camera will then follow at the same view that it has at that point.
>>> >
>>> > If needed you could use "camera point at object” before setting the
>>> vehicle to have the camera orient to the object first if it isn’t already
>>> centered.
>>> >
>>> > If you desire it to not follow the object after that point then set
>>> the vehicle back to “this" after that.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Eric
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope- the camera can’t move on it’s own and remain centered on the
>>> object…. The camera just moves to the right as the object goes out of view…
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This is unfortunate, as it is a basic skill I teach at the beginning
>>> to get camera and object movement experimentation among the students, and
>>> it won’t work.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I hope you find a solution. I may go back and just load 2.4.3 back
>>> onto the machines….
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim Melia
>>> >>
>>> >> Technology
>>> >>
>>> >> Lansdowne High School
>>> >>
>>> >> <image001.png>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia=
>>> bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Donald Slater
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:58 PM
>>> >> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>>> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim,
>>> >>
>>> >> You are right, this code in Alice 3 does not function the same way as
>>> it does in Alice 2, and right now I do not have a good explanation for it.
>>> Here is a work around that comes close to replicating the Alice 2 behavior.
>>> You may play with
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Do Together
>>> >>
>>> >>   camera move right 10 meters duration 4 seconds Begin and End
>>> Abruptly
>>> >>
>>> >>   Count 4
>>> >>
>>> >>       Camera pointAt (obj) duhration 1 Second Begin and End Abruptly
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Let me know if you have any questions...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Don Slater
>>> >>
>>> >> Alice Project
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I used to do a “do together”
>>> >>
>>> >>                Object MOVE right 10
>>> >>
>>> >>                Camera POINT AT Object
>>> >>
>>> >> and the camera would follow the object. It does not do this in 3.1.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> How do I make the camera stationary but focused on a moving object?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim Melia
>>> >>
>>> >> Lansdowne HS
>>> >>
>>> >> Baltimore County Schools
>>> >>
>>> >> jmelia at bcps.org
>>> >>
>>> >> 443-255-6729
>>> >>
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gender, or disability in its educational programs as required by Title IV 
of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended; Title IX of the Educational 
Amendments of 1972; and section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as 
amended. For information about your rights or grievance procedures, contact 
the Title IX Coordinator, Elida DeLeon at (361)664-0981, #2 Coyote Trail, 
Alice, Texas 78332 and/or the Section 504 Coordinator, Monica Saenz at 
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Notificación de No Discriminación
El Distrito Escolar Independiente de Alice no discrimina en base a la edad, 
raza, religión, color de piel, nacionalidad, el género, y discapacidad al 
proporcionar servicios educativos, actividades, y programas, de acuerdo con 
el Título VI del Acta de Derechos Civiles de 1964, como ha sido amendada; 
el Título IX de las Enmiendas Educativas de 1972; y la Sección 504 del Acta 
de Rehabilitación de 1973, como ha sido amendada. Para información sobre 
sus derechos o procedimientos para quejas, comuniquese con el Coordinador 
del Titulo IX, Elida DeLeon, at #2 Coyote Trail, Alice, Texas 78332, 
(361)664-0981, y/o el Coordinador de las Sección 504, Monica Saenz, at #2 
Coyote Trail, Alice, Texas 78332, (361)664-0981. 
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