alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1

Thu Feb 8 11:13:53 EST 2018

Yvonne, does your IT have a 'reset' on the computers, so local data doesn't
remain after a logout? We have that issue here on some of the student lab
computers. Have you tried to save to an external device, like a USB?

Mr. Golebie

kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us

Computer Technology Teacher

Rm 201 & 202

Lincoln High School

Ellwood City Area School District

Ellwood City PA  16117

724-752-1591 x3202

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Yvonne Perez <yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net>
wrote:

> Thank you for responding to me. They are saving it in the my projects file
> but the next Day their work is gone... I have since then asked them to save
> to other locations and the same thing occurs. They get frustrated that
> their work deletes. We are on PCs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Donald Slater <don at alice.org> wrote:
>
> Yvonne,
> The My Projects directory that Alice 3 uses is located in the users home
> directory on the Mac, and I believe the Documents directory of the user on
> the PC.
>
> Is it possible that the permissions settings for these student directories
> prevent access by Alice? It is possible for the students to browse to other
> locations on the system to save the Alice projects.
>
> Are there other issues that you are having that I have not addressed here?
>
> Thank you,
> Don Slater
>
> Alice Project
>
> On Feb 6, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Yvonne Perez <yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net>
> wrote:
>
> I am having trouble with student work saving in "my projects" help.
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Understood.  I definitely understand the difference between the vehicle
>> option I outlined and the panning to follow that you desire. I was just
>> offering up a different option for a dynamic camera movement that could
>> follow an object that you may already be using until we could implement the
>> solution you desire.   As Don said we will definitely look into why the
>> point at method isn't functioning during a do together in Alice 3 and so is
>> not achieving what you want.
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, but I don't want the camera attached to anything. For instance
>> "Camera move right 10" do together "point at chair" and the camera will
>> move right 10 but not continue pointing at the chair, so the chair goes out
>> of view. These were basic scenarios we did with camera movement in Alice
>> 2.4, but it doesn't work the same or just doesn't work in 3.1. If that is
>> the case, I will go back to 2.43...
>> >
>> > Jim Melia
>> > Technology
>> > Lansdowne High School
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia=
>> bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Brown
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:50 PM
>> > To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
>> >
>> > You could in code or in the scene editor "set camera vehicle to
>> object”.  If in code just do it before the animation instructions.  The
>> camera will then follow at the same view that it has at that point.
>> >
>> > If needed you could use "camera point at object” before setting the
>> vehicle to have the camera orient to the object first if it isn’t already
>> centered.
>> >
>> > If you desire it to not follow the object after that point then set the
>> vehicle back to “this" after that.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nope- the camera can’t move on it’s own and remain centered on the
>> object…. The camera just moves to the right as the object goes out of view…
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is unfortunate, as it is a basic skill I teach at the beginning
>> to get camera and object movement experimentation among the students, and
>> it won’t work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I hope you find a solution. I may go back and just load 2.4.3 back
>> onto the machines….
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jim Melia
>> >>
>> >> Technology
>> >>
>> >> Lansdowne High School
>> >>
>> >> <image001.png>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia=
>> bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Donald Slater
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:58 PM
>> >> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jim,
>> >>
>> >> You are right, this code in Alice 3 does not function the same way as
>> it does in Alice 2, and right now I do not have a good explanation for it.
>> Here is a work around that comes close to replicating the Alice 2 behavior.
>> You may play with
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Do Together
>> >>
>> >>   camera move right 10 meters duration 4 seconds Begin and End Abruptly
>> >>
>> >>   Count 4
>> >>
>> >>       Camera pointAt (obj) duhration 1 Second Begin and End Abruptly
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if you have any questions...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Don Slater
>> >>
>> >> Alice Project
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I used to do a “do together”
>> >>
>> >>                Object MOVE right 10
>> >>
>> >>                Camera POINT AT Object
>> >>
>> >> and the camera would follow the object. It does not do this in 3.1.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> How do I make the camera stationary but focused on a moving object?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jim Melia
>> >>
>> >> Lansdowne HS
>> >>
>> >> Baltimore County Schools
>> >>
>> >> jmelia at bcps.org
>> >>
>> >> 443-255-6729
>> >>
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