alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 67, Issue 12
Roger Crowe
roger.crowe at spart5.net
Wed Mar 16 15:57:20 EDT 2016
Just to clarify, I was looking for the best/easiest/most efficient method
to open the files submitted through Schoology. Schoology handles the files
no problem. I just have to download the files to a folder and then open in
Alice. I think I've got it down now.
Thanks for all of the suggestions folks. It looks like other folks are
using and finding solutions to this type of occurance.
Thanks again.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Steven Jang via alice-teachers <
alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Edmodo and Google Classroom has no problems with submitting Alice files.
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>> 1. grading work (Roger Crowe)
>> 2. Re: grading work (Don Slater)
>> 3. Re: grading work (Marcia Viqueira)
>> 4. Submitting Alice programs in Schoology (Parker, Polly)
>> 5. Fwd: grading work (Donald Slater)
>> 6. Re: grading work (Keith Golebie)
>> 7. Re: grading work (Deane Fistick)
>> 8. Re: Fwd: grading work (Roger Crowe)
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:38:14 -0400
>> From: Roger Crowe <roger.crowe at spart5.net>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: alice-teacher grading work
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>> We are using the Schoology platform for student work. When students
>> finish
>> their work in Alice I am having them submit their .a2w file. Is there a
>> better way to check their work?
>>
>> I am having trouble getting the submitted file from Schoology back into
>> Alice to watch it Run.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:50:42 -0400
>> From: Don Slater <don at alice.org>
>> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
>> Message-ID: <AFB4B80C-A754-46AF-89A6-00DB554D93F9 at alice.org>
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>> I am not familiar with Schoology, but I am guessing that it recognizes
>> that a .a2w file is actually a compressed file (similar to a .zip), and is
>> trying to do an automatic expansion.
>>
>> One solution, though slightly tedious, would be to have your students put
>> their project in a folder, zip up that folder, and then submit the zipped
>> folder. An advantage to this is that you could also have them submit some
>> form of documentation about their project that wold be included in the
>> folder.
>>
>> Other members of the community may have better suggestions.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Don Slater
>>
>> Alice Team
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Entertainment Technology Center
>> 700 Technology Drive
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>>
>> Email: dslater at cmu.edu
>>
>> I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances
>> confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life
>> he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
>> --- Henry David Thoreau
>>
>> The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 15, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Roger Crowe via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > We are using the Schoology platform for student work. When students
>> finish their work in Alice I am having them submit their .a2w file. Is
>> there a better way to check their work?
>> >
>> > I am having trouble getting the submitted file from Schoology back into
>> Alice to watch it Run.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:11:13 -0400
>> From: Marcia Viqueira <mviqueira at mariaregina.org>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
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>> Perhaps, setting up a folder on a Google Drive/Dropbox or maybe Google
>> Classroom? I am teaching this class in the Fall, so I am also curious as
>> to
>> what is the best method.
>>
>> -Marcia
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Roger Crowe via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > We are using the Schoology platform for student work. When students
>> > finish their work in Alice I am having them submit their .a2w file. Is
>> > there a better way to check their work?
>> >
>> > I am having trouble getting the submitted file from Schoology back into
>> > Alice to watch it Run.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > NOTICE: This email may contain confidential, proprietary, or privileged
>> > material. If you have received this e-mail or any of its attachments in
>> > error, it does not constitute permission to examine, copy or distribute
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>> Schools
>> > of Spartanburg County, of the error would be appreciated.
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>> From: "Parker, Polly" <polly.parker at jalsd.org>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: alice-teacher Submitting Alice programs in Schoology
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>> I've been using Schoology with Alice files for 3 years. It's clean and
>> organized and once you get the steps down, grading goes fairly fast.
>>
>> A student simply submits their Alice .a2w file. As the teacher, I download
>> that file and double-click on it to open it in Alice and run/evaluate
>> their
>> program. If you haven't told Windows to use Alice to open a2w files, then
>> you might have to go into Alice and use File/Open to open the file instead
>> of double-clicking. Nothing else is needed.
>>
>> My students turn in Office files, Google Docs, Scratch files, and of
>> course
>> Alice files all into Schoology.
>>
>> Polly Parker
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:34:41 -0400
>> From: Donald Slater <dslater+ at andrew.cmu.edu>
>> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: alice-teacher Fwd: grading work
>> Message-ID: <6AD9F22E-9E70-4FC4-938A-DD4011850C89 at andrew.cmu.edu>
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>>
>>
>> Don,
>> I agree with your suggestion to try this, which could be the problem.
>> The other problem Schoology presents is that (I believe) it sets by default
>> a smallish limit on the maximum file size allowed for student uploads. The
>> work-arounds I have used have been to either have smaller worlds for
>> students to upload (no sound files, simpler models), or asking for the
>> limit to be raised.
>> Just my $0.02,
>> Steve
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Don Slater via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> > Date: Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM
>> > Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
>> > To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I am not familiar with Schoology, but I am guessing that it recognizes
>> that a .a2w file is actually a compressed file (similar to a .zip), and is
>> trying to do an automatic expansion.
>> >
>> > One solution, though slightly tedious, would be to have your students
>> put their project in a folder, zip up that folder, and then submit the
>> zipped folder. An advantage to this is that you could also have them submit
>> some form of documentation about their project that wold be included in the
>> folder.
>> >
>> > Other members of the community may have better suggestions.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> > Don Slater
>> >
>> > Alice Team
>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>> > Entertainment Technology Center
>> > 700 Technology Drive
>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>> >
>> > Email: dslater at cmu.edu <mailto:dslater at cmu.edu>
>> >
>> > I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances
>> confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life
>> he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
>> > --- Henry David Thoreau
>> >
>> > The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton
>> >
>> >
>> ---
>> Steve Cooper
>> Associate Professor (Teaching), Department of Computer Science
>> Associate Professor, School of Education (by courtesy)
>> Stanford University
>> 353 Serra Mall
>> Stanford, CA 94305
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>> http://www.stanford.edu/~coopers <http://www.stanford.edu/%7Ecoopers>
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:38:06 -0400
>> From: Keith Golebie <kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
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>> I guess I am fortunate in that my classroom is also a computer lab, so
>> often, when grading, I grade the student projects at their computer while
>> sitting beside them. This also allows me to give instant feedback, make
>> suggestions, try things, etc... I've found it to be a pretty effective
>> teaching tool as well.
>>
>> Mr. Golebie
>>
>> kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us
>>
>> Computer Technology Teacher
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>>
>> Lincoln High School
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>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Marcia Viqueira via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Perhaps, setting up a folder on a Google Drive/Dropbox or maybe Google
>> > Classroom? I am teaching this class in the Fall, so I am also curious
>> as to
>> > what is the best method.
>> >
>> > -Marcia
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Roger Crowe via alice-teachers <
>> > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> We are using the Schoology platform for student work. When students
>> >> finish their work in Alice I am having them submit their .a2w file. Is
>> >> there a better way to check their work?
>> >>
>> >> I am having trouble getting the submitted file from Schoology back into
>> >> Alice to watch it Run.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> NOTICE: This email may contain confidential, proprietary, or
>> privileged
>> >> material. If you have received this e-mail or any of its attachments
>> in
>> >> error, it does not constitute permission to examine, copy or
>> distribute the
>> >> information. Prompt notification to the sender, or District Five
>> Schools
>> >> of Spartanburg County, of the error would be appreciated.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> alice-teachers mailing list
>> >> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
>> >> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > mviqueira at mariaregina.org
>> > Spanish Teacher and Moderator
>> > La Sociedad Honoraria Hisp?nica | Spanish Club | City Slickers
>> > ------------------------------------------
>> > Maria Regina High School
>> > 500 West Hartsdale Avenue
>> > Hartsdale, NY 10530
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > alice-teachers mailing list
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 18:41:41 +0000
>> From: Deane Fistick <deane.fistick at ecotoh.org>
>> To: "'Alice educators'" <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
>> Message-ID: <aa00b641d70e4b52b0ef963baa2d493c at dcmbexch02d.ecotoh.net>
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>> I'm not sure if this relates to your situation or not.
>>
>> I teach for an on-line school and often give my students "starter files"
>> which they are to complete for an assignment. Depending on their computer
>> and/or browser, sometimes these files get downloaded as compressed. When my
>> students (or I) receive a compressed Alice file, I have them NOT extract it
>> (it makes a mess when they double click to open it). Open Alice first, then
>> go to File -> Open World -> go to the file. Alice extracts the file
>> automatically. I tell them this process is "going in the back door".
>>
>>
>> Mr. Deane Fistick
>> Electronic Classroom Of Tomorrow (ECOT)
>> HS Computer Programming Teacher
>> 1-888-326-8395 ext. 3640
>> deane.fistick at ecotoh.org<mailto:deane.fistick at ecotoh.org>
>>
>> [WinterOwl]
>>
>> From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+deane.fistick=
>> ecotoh.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Don Slater via
>> alice-teachers
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:51 PM
>> To: Alice Teachers
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
>>
>> I am not familiar with Schoology, but I am guessing that it recognizes
>> that a .a2w file is actually a compressed file (similar to a .zip), and is
>> trying to do an automatic expansion.
>>
>> One solution, though slightly tedious, would be to have your students put
>> their project in a folder, zip up that folder, and then submit the zipped
>> folder. An advantage to this is that you could also have them submit some
>> form of documentation about their project that wold be included in the
>> folder.
>>
>> Other members of the community may have better suggestions.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Don Slater
>>
>> Alice Team
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Entertainment Technology Center
>> 700 Technology Drive
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>>
>> Email: dslater at cmu.edu<mailto:dslater at cmu.edu>
>>
>> I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances
>> confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life
>> he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
>> --- Henry David Thoreau
>>
>> The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Roger Crowe via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> We are using the Schoology platform for student work. When students
>> finish their work in Alice I am having them submit their .a2w file. Is
>> there a better way to check their work?
>>
>> I am having trouble getting the submitted file from Schoology back into
>> Alice to watch it Run.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> NOTICE: This email may contain confidential, proprietary, or privileged
>> material. If you have received this e-mail or any of its attachments in
>> error, it does not constitute permission to examine, copy or distribute the
>> information. Prompt notification to the sender, or District Five Schools
>> of Spartanburg County, of the error would be
>> appreciated._______________________________________________
>> alice-teachers mailing list
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:41:35 -0400
>> From: Roger Crowe <roger.crowe at spart5.net>
>> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Fwd: grading work
>> Message-ID:
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>> At this point, our file size is less than 2 MB. We are just in Chapter 2.
>> I think I've got a handle on it. It wasn't an Alice issue I just had to
>> figure out where Schoology was downloading the student files.
>>
>> We love Alice!
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Donald Slater via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Don,
>> > I agree with your suggestion to try this, which could be the problem.
>> > The other problem Schoology presents is that (I believe) it sets by
>> default
>> > a smallish limit on the maximum file size allowed for student uploads.
>> The
>> > work-arounds I have used have been to either have smaller worlds for
>> > students to upload (no sound files, simpler models), or asking for the
>> > limit to be raised.
>> > Just my $0.02,
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Don Slater via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> > Date: Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM
>> > Subject: Re: alice-teacher grading work
>> > To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>> >
>> >
>> > I am not familiar with Schoology, but I am guessing that it recognizes
>> > that a .a2w file is actually a compressed file (similar to a .zip), and
>> is
>> > trying to do an automatic expansion.
>> >
>> > One solution, though slightly tedious, would be to have your students
>> put
>> > their project in a folder, zip up that folder, and then submit the
>> zipped
>> > folder. An advantage to this is that you could also have them submit
>> some
>> > form of documentation about their project that wold be included in the
>> > folder.
>> >
>> > Other members of the community may have better suggestions.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> > Don Slater
>> >
>> > Alice Team
>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>> > Entertainment Technology Center
>> > 700 Technology Drive
>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15219
>> >
>> > Email: dslater at cmu.edu
>> >
>> > I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances
>> > confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the
>> life
>> > he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
>> > --- Henry David Thoreau
>> >
>> > The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Steve Cooper
>> > Associate Professor (Teaching), Department of Computer Science
>> > Associate Professor, School of Education (by courtesy)
>> > Stanford University
>> > 353 Serra Mall
>> > Stanford, CA 94305
>> >
>> > http://www.stanford.edu/~coopers
>> > 650.723.9798
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > alice-teachers mailing list
>> > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
>> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers
>> >
>> >
>>
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