alice-teacher Moving around in scene set up

Burleigh,Lynn lburleigh at axtellisd.net
Wed Dec 2 13:55:04 EST 2015


My student figured our problem out.  We can place all objects in scene setup and when we try to click on the object and handle to move, resize, rotate, etc... the selection jumps back up to 'this' and moves the world instead.  The student said (for us), we have to exit Alice and save it ...then reopen it and all the objects can be moved and resized...I tried it and it works!   

Could this be a tech problem at school??

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   1. Re:  move objects around in scene setup (Donald Slater)
   2. Re:  Games and Timers (Donald Slater)
   3. Re:  Does Alice3 support team concurrent development?
      (Donald Slater)


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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:04:24 -0500
From: Donald Slater <dslater+ at andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: alice-teacher move objects around in scene setup
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This is a known problem with Alice 3, one that we are working on, but it is a source of frustration for us.

Sometimes moving the camera a bit helps? We are starting to think that in some, let me emphasize not all, cases the bounding boxes of other objects in the scene may be causing some interference?

There are some work arounds?

Using a shift-click and drag will move an object up and down, and using a control-click (option-click on a Mac) and drag will turn an object left and right?

You may also use the one-shots, by right-clciking on an object and select procedures from the drop down menu, or the one-shot menu and selecting procedures in the object control panel in the right panel of the Scene Editor.

In the meantime, we will continue to work on this problem.

Thank you for your patience, ad please keep us posted...

All the best,
Don Slater

Alice Team
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213


> On Dec 1, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Burleigh, Lynn via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
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> For some reason in scene setup, my students cannot just grab an object and move it.  All the videos we watch show that it can be done.  Are we missing a plug in or something??
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:31:23 -0500
From: Donald Slater <djslater107 at mac.com>
To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: alice-teacher Games and Timers
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Look at the following algorithm

	declare gameOver variable to false
	declare score variable and set to 0
	declare currentTime variable and set to 20 seconds   

	mouse click event
		if mouse clicked on mole
			increase score by 1
			if score is equal to 5
				set gameOver to true
     
	while (currentTime > 0 and not gameOver)
            	doTogether->
            		show and hide the mole
			do in order ->
                		display time
                		wait 1 second
               			subtract 1 from currentTime
			// end of do in order
		// end of do Together
	// end of while

	if score is equal to 5
		player wins
	
Let me know if you have any questions?

Don Slater

Alice Team
Carnegie Mellon University
Entertainment Technology Center
700 Technology Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15219

Email: dslater at cmu.edu

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> On Dec 1, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Jennifer Leaver via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
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> Hi,
> This is my first year using and teaching Alice.  My students are creating games and are stuck on how to get a timer to work correctly with the game.  For example, one student is making a whack-a-mole game.  She has a timer counting down from 20 seconds.  The player wins if s/he whacks 5 moles.  How does she get the timer to stop and text to display, "You won!" if the player clicks the mole 5 times?  We've been trying if/else statements with no success.  If the timer runs down to zero, she wants the display to read, "You lose."
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> Thank you so much for your help!
> 
> Jenni Leaver
> Margaretville Central School
> Margaretville, NY 12455
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:39:33 -0500
From: Donald Slater <djslater107 at mac.com>
To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: alice-teacher Does Alice3 support team concurrent
	development?
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This is not a feature that is currently possible within Alice 3, although it is a feature that we hope to implement in the future. The closest you could come to something like this in Alice 3 would be to have students work on different classes (for example, different characters in a story), and import those different classes into the story world.

An example of this would be a world in which there are several hidden objects, and then students would create characters with a explore the world algorithm, searching for hidden objects. Then those different characters could be imported into one world and students could see which object found the target objects first.

Or students create characters that can dance, and the characters are imported into a dance floor world.

I believe that it may be possible to accomplish what you are describing in the NetBeans / Java side of Alice. But we have not tested this extensively. If you would like to work with us to see if we can make this work, please contact me directly at dslater at cmu.edu. And I will be happy to work with you, as this is a feature I am interested in.

All the best,
Don Slater

Alice Team
Carnegie Mellon University
Entertainment Technology Center
700 Technology Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15219

Email: dslater at cmu.edu

I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
--- Henry David Thoreau

The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton


> On Dec 1, 2015, at 12:48 AM, Steven Jang via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
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> Does Alice3 have a way to support separate Alice3 programs where my students work on individual pieces of a large project?
> 
> Am looking at whether Alice3 can support the equivalent of 20+ screen pages.
> For example a five chapter story where individual students work on one 
> chapter and we either Merge the separate A3P files into one large file 
> (how??) OR When the chapter 1 A3P file ends, it loads / runs the chapter 2 A3P Alice World which runs til it ends and then loads / runs the chapter 3 A3P Alice World, ect.
> This would let me teach "team" development for the students.
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