alice-teacher A2, different gallery content

Don Slater dslater at andrew.cmu.edu
Wed Dec 17 07:13:41 EST 2014


Interesting… We have adjusted the gallery between Alice 2. 3 and Alice 2.4 (I forget exactly when) as the download size was getting larger than we would like, and to remove some duplicates (for example people objects that did and did not have walking methods.)

There is a difference also between what we refer to as the “Core” Gallery, which is distributed with the download, and the “English” Gallery, which is distributed form the Software Update menu. I believe that if someone downloads the “English” Gallery, the Core Gallery is removed. But I may be wrong about that.

I am wondering if the confusion between galleries happens because we do not have a true installer for Alice 2, but rather it is a .zip that the user uncompresses and then copies - moves to a location on the computer. I wonder if some OS versions have a “smart” copy overwriting duplicates, but leaving others alone? I really have no idea if this is what is happening.

It is something we will have to watch.

Thanks, and I hope you have a terrific holiday.

All the best,
Don Slater


> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Marilynn Huret <mhuret at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> 
> I also noticed that some computers had more or less gallery objects in various classes. I copied the entire gallery (all categories) from a completer set I had on one computer and copied it into the Required->gallery on all the machines. When A2 was restarted, I checked the gallery I think that when the person(not me) installed some with core and some with complete English
> 
> We did find a few duplicates and it seemed that some objects appeared in more than one class, not a problem
> 
> -=mh=-
> 
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> > 1. Fwd: alice error-texture (Laurie Solomon Cohen)
> > 2. screen turning black (Laurie Solomon Cohen)
> > 3. Re: screen turning black (Don Slater)
> > 4. Re: Objects in Gallery different (McLean, Jennifer)
> > 5. Re: Objects in Gallery different (Don Slater)
> > 6. Re: Objects in Gallery different (Don Slater)
> > 7. Re: Objects in Gallery different (McLean, Jennifer)
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> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:45:28 -0500
> >From: Laurie Solomon Cohen 
> >Subject: alice-teacher Fwd: alice error-texture
> >To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> >Message-ID: <8D1E218F6E347D9-1538-2C0F6 at webmail-vm062.sysops.aol.com <mailto:8D1E218F6E347D9-1538-2C0F6 at webmail-vm062.sysops.aol.com>>
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> >Below is the print out of an error we received while my student was creating his story in Alice. He would have been unable to save his work!
> >We figured it out, and changed it so he could save it, but we wonder why it had this problem, so we don't cause it in the future.
> >The error seems to have occurred since he changed the Texture of the orb (circle class) to be moon texture. When he changed the texture back, it was able to save with no error.
> >Is this a known Alice error? 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >From: aryeh miller 
> >Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:27 PM
> >Subject: alice error
> >To: lcohen at yeshiva.edu <mailto:lcohen at yeshiva.edu>
> >
> >
> >
> >An error has occurred while attempting to save your world.
> >
> >
> >This is a critical situation that needs to be dealt with immediately.
> >
> >
> >NOTE: Pleasecheck for a directory co-located with 
> >your world named "Backups of " which 
> >should contain previously saved versions of your world.
> >
> >
> >We at the Alice Team apologize for any work you have lost
> >
> >
> >Please accept our sincerest apologies. The Alice Team.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Alice version: 2.4.2 (July 2014)
> >
> >
> >os.name: Windows 7
> >
> >
> >os.version: 6.1
> >
> >
> >os.arch: x86
> >
> >
> >java.vm.name: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
> >
> >
> >java.vm.version: 20.0-b11
> >
> >
> >user.dir: C:\Users\Public\Desktop\Required
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Throwable that caused the error:
> >
> >
> >java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not find ancestor: world, class: class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.World
> >Key: 
> >Details: circle class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Model
> >	moonTexture class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.TextureMap
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalGetKey(Element.java:789)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalGetKey(Element.java:792)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.getKey(Element.java:804)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.reference.DefaultReferenceGenerator.generateReference(DefaultReferenceGenerator.java:39)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Property.encodeReference(Property.java:690)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Property.encode(Property.java:720)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalStore(Element.java:1688)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalStore(Element.java:1744)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1790)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1803)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1806)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1838)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.authoringtool.dialog.StoreElementProgressPane.construct(StoreElementProgressPane.java:47)
> >
> >
> >	at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.progress.ProgressPane$2.run(ProgressPane.java:86)
> >
> >
> >	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:57:50 -0500
> >From: Laurie Solomon Cohen 
> >Subject: alice-teacher screen turning black
> >To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> >Is there a reason why sometimes the screen will turn black? It seems for no reason. Most times if the student just shuts it down and then reopens Alice (we're using 2.4.2), it is fine.
> >Are we doing something that causes this?
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> >
> >Laurie Cohen
> >Yeshiva of Greater Washington
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> >Message: 3
> >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:53:01 -0500
> >From: Don Slater 
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher screen turning black
> >To: Alice Teachers 
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> >Laurie,
> >We have seen this as well, but not often enough for us to get figure out what is going? My guess is that it has something to do with the video card, but it is only a guess? You might try and update the drivers on your video cards (see this link for more information: http://alice3.pbworks.com/w/page/54959364/Updating <http://alice3.pbworks.com/w/page/54959364/Updating> Video Drivers). And it is true that restarting Alice tends to resolve the problem, but it certainly is irritating.
> >
> >Have you noticed if it is the same machine or set of machines in your lab?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Don Slater
> >
> > 
> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen wrote:
> >> 
> >> Is there a reason why sometimes the screen will turn black? It seems for no reason. Most times if the student just shuts it down and then reopens Alice (we're using 2.4.2), it is fine.
> >> Are we doing something that causes this?
> >> 
> >> Laurie Cohen
> >> Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> >> Silver Spring, Maryland
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> >Message: 4
> >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:43:51 0000
> >From: "McLean, Jennifer" 
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >To: Alice Teachers 
> >Message-ID: <1418737430416.25366 at klschools.org <mailto:1418737430416.25366 at klschools.org>>
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> >I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?
> >
> >
> >Thanks, Jennifer McLean
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: alice-teachers-bounces jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Don Slater 
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM
> >To: Alice Teachers
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >
> >There are two possibilities:
> >
> >1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?
> >2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.
> >
> >Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.
> >
> >Let me know if you continue to have problems.
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >
> >No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.
> >Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?
> >
> >Laurie Cohen
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Don Slater >
> >To: Alice Teachers >
> >Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >
> >I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?
> >
> >(The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)
> >
> >The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.
> >
> >Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.
> >
> >1) Quit Alice if it is running
> >2) Restart Alice
> >3) Help menu -> select Update Software
> >4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery
> >5) Click the Update button
> >
> >(I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)
> >
> >6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity
> >
> >Here is where it might go wrong for you?
> >
> >7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY
> >8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)
> >
> >We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?
> >
> >9) Click the Resart button
> >
> >The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >
> >We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.
> >Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.
> >Strange.
> >
> >
> >Laurie Cohen
> >Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> >Silver Spring, MD
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> >Message: 5
> >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:04:40 -0500
> >From: Don Slater 
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >To: Alice Teachers 
> >Message-ID: 
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> >See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?
> >
> >	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE> 
> >
> >Let me know if you have any other questions?
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer wrote:
> >> 
> >> I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?
> >> 
> >> Thanks, Jennifer McLean
> >> From: alice-teachers-bounces jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Don Slater 
> >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM
> >> To: Alice Teachers
> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >>  
> >> There are two possibilities:
> >> 
> >> 1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?
> >> 2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.
> >> 
> >> Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.
> >> 
> >> Let me know if you continue to have problems.
> >> 
> >> All the best,
> >> Don Slater
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.
> >>> Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?
> >>> 
> >>> Laurie Cohen
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Don Slater >
> >>> To: Alice Teachers >
> >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am
> >>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >>> 
> >>> I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?
> >>> 
> >>> (The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)
> >>> 
> >>> The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.
> >>> 
> >>> Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again. 
> >>> 
> >>> 1) Quit Alice if it is running
> >>> 2) Restart Alice
> >>> 3) Help menu -> select Update Software
> >>> 4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery
> >>> 5) Click the Update button
> >>> 
> >>> (I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)
> >>> 
> >>> 6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity
> >>> 
> >>> Here is where it might go wrong for you?
> >>> 
> >>> 7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY
> >>> 8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)
> >>> 
> >>> We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?
> >>> 
> >>> 9) Click the Resart button
> >>> 
> >>> The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?
> >>> 
> >>> All the best,
> >>> Don Slater
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.
> >>>> Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.
> >>>> Strange.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Laurie Cohen
> >>>> Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> >>>> Silver Spring, MD
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> alice-teachers mailing list
> >>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> 
> >>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers <https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers> 
> >>> 
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> >Message: 6
> >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:04:40 -0500
> >From: Don Slater 
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >To: Alice Teachers 
> >Message-ID: 
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> >See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?
> >
> >	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE> 
> >
> >Let me know if you have any other questions?
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer wrote:
> >> 
> >> I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?
> >> 
> >> Thanks, Jennifer McLean
> >> From: alice-teachers-bounces jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Don Slater 
> >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM
> >> To: Alice Teachers
> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >>  
> >> There are two possibilities:
> >> 
> >> 1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?
> >> 2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.
> >> 
> >> Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.
> >> 
> >> Let me know if you continue to have problems.
> >> 
> >> All the best,
> >> Don Slater
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.
> >>> Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?
> >>> 
> >>> Laurie Cohen
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Don Slater >
> >>> To: Alice Teachers >
> >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am
> >>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >>> 
> >>> I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?
> >>> 
> >>> (The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)
> >>> 
> >>> The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.
> >>> 
> >>> Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again. 
> >>> 
> >>> 1) Quit Alice if it is running
> >>> 2) Restart Alice
> >>> 3) Help menu -> select Update Software
> >>> 4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery
> >>> 5) Click the Update button
> >>> 
> >>> (I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)
> >>> 
> >>> 6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity
> >>> 
> >>> Here is where it might go wrong for you?
> >>> 
> >>> 7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY
> >>> 8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)
> >>> 
> >>> We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?
> >>> 
> >>> 9) Click the Resart button
> >>> 
> >>> The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?
> >>> 
> >>> All the best,
> >>> Don Slater
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.
> >>>> Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.
> >>>> Strange.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Laurie Cohen
> >>>> Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> >>>> Silver Spring, MD
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> >Message: 7
> >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:28:33 0000
> >From: "McLean, Jennifer" 
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >To: Alice Teachers 
> >Message-ID: <1418754512398.63606 at klschools.org <mailto:1418754512398.63606 at klschools.org>>
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> >Yes. That is what I did. Is there a way to insert the objects from a folder other than the default folder? I am on a network and the My Projects folder is not in the place where Alice was installed.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks, Jen
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: alice-teachers-bounces jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Don Slater 
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:04 AM
> >To: Alice Teachers
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >
> >See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE>
> >
> >Let me know if you have any other questions?
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >
> >On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer > wrote:
> >
> >I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?
> >
> >Thanks, Jennifer McLean
> >________________________________
> >From: alice-teachers-bounces jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:jmclean=klschools.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> > on behalf of Don Slater >
> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM
> >To: Alice Teachers
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >
> >There are two possibilities:
> >
> >1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?
> >2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.
> >
> >Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.
> >
> >Let me know if you continue to have problems.
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >
> >No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.
> >Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?
> >
> >Laurie Cohen
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Don Slater >
> >To: Alice Teachers >
> >Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different
> >
> >I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?
> >
> >(The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)
> >
> >The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.
> >
> >Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.
> >
> >1) Quit Alice if it is running
> >2) Restart Alice
> >3) Help menu -> select Update Software
> >4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery
> >5) Click the Update button
> >
> >(I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)
> >
> >6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity
> >
> >Here is where it might go wrong for you?
> >
> >7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY
> >8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)
> >
> >We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?
> >
> >9) Click the Resart button
> >
> >The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?
> >
> >All the best,
> >Don Slater
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen > wrote:
> >
> >We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.
> >Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.
> >Strange.
> >
> >
> >Laurie Cohen
> >Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> >Silver Spring, MD
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