<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Interesting… We have adjusted the gallery between Alice 2. 3 and Alice 2.4 (I forget exactly when) as the download size was getting larger than we would like, and to remove some duplicates (for example people objects that did and did not have walking methods.)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is a difference also between what we refer to as the “Core” Gallery, which is distributed with the download, and the “English” Gallery, which is distributed form the Software Update menu. I believe that if someone downloads the “English” Gallery, the Core Gallery is removed. But I may be wrong about that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am wondering if the confusion between galleries happens because we do not have a true installer for Alice 2, but rather it is a .zip that the user uncompresses and then copies - moves to a location on the computer. I wonder if some OS versions have a “smart” copy overwriting duplicates, but leaving others alone? I really have no idea if this is what is happening.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is something we will have to watch.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks, and I hope you have a terrific holiday.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Marilynn Huret <<a href="mailto:mhuret@mindspring.com" class="">mhuret@mindspring.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;" class="">Hi Don,<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I also noticed that some computers had more or less gallery objects in various classes. I copied the entire gallery (all categories) from a completer set I had on one computer and copied it into the Required->gallery on all the machines. When A2 was restarted, I checked the gallery I think that when the person(not me) installed some with core and some with complete English<br class=""><br class="">We did find a few duplicates and it seemed that some objects appeared in more than one class, not a problem<br class=""><br class="">-=mh=-<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers-request@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers-request@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>Sent: Dec 16, 2014 3:29 PM<br class="">>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>Subject: alice-teachers Digest, Vol 52, Issue 3<br class="">><br class="">>Send alice-teachers mailing list submissions to<br class="">> <a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">><br class="">>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class="">> <a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="">> <a href="mailto:alice-teachers-request@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers-request@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">><br class="">>You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="">> <a href="mailto:alice-teachers-owner@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers-owner@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">><br class="">>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">>than "Re: Contents of alice-teachers digest..."<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Today's Topics:<br class="">><br class="">> 1. Fwd: alice error-texture (Laurie Solomon Cohen)<br class="">> 2. screen turning black (Laurie Solomon Cohen)<br class="">> 3. Re: screen turning black (Don Slater)<br class="">> 4. Re: Objects in Gallery different (McLean, Jennifer)<br class="">> 5. Re: Objects in Gallery different (Don Slater)<br class="">> 6. Re: Objects in Gallery different (Don Slater)<br class="">> 7. Re: Objects in Gallery different (McLean, Jennifer)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 1<br class="">>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:45:28 -0500<br class="">>From: Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><br class="">>Subject: alice-teacher Fwd: alice error-texture<br class="">>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:8D1E218F6E347D9-1538-2C0F6@webmail-vm062.sysops.aol.com" class="">8D1E218F6E347D9-1538-2C0F6@webmail-vm062.sysops.aol.com</a>><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br class="">><br class="">>Below is the print out of an error we received while my student was creating his story in Alice. He would have been unable to save his work!<br class="">>We figured it out, and changed it so he could save it, but we wonder why it had this problem, so we don't cause it in the future.<br class="">>The error seems to have occurred since he changed the Texture of the orb (circle class) to be moon texture. When he changed the texture back, it was able to save with no error.<br class="">>Is this a known Alice error?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">>From: aryeh miller<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mannaryeh02@gmail.com class=""><br class="">>Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:27 PM<br class="">>Subject: alice error<br class="">>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lcohen@yeshiva.edu" class="">lcohen@yeshiva.edu</a><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>An error has occurred while attempting to save your world.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>This is a critical situation that needs to be dealt with immediately.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>NOTE: Pleasecheck for a directory co-located with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>your world named "Backups of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><yourworldnamehere class="">" which<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>should contain previously saved versions of your world.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>We at the Alice Team apologize for any work you have lost<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Please accept our sincerest apologies. The Alice Team.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Alice version: 2.4.2 (July 2014)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>os.name: Windows 7<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>os.version: 6.1<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>os.arch: x86<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>java.vm.name: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>java.vm.version: 20.0-b11<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>user.dir: C:\Users\Public\Desktop\Required<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Throwable that caused the error:<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not find ancestor: world, class: class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.World<br class="">>Key:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>Details: circle class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Model<br class="">> moonTexture class edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.TextureMap<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalGetKey(Element.java:789)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalGetKey(Element.java:792)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.getKey(Element.java:804)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.reference.DefaultReferenceGenerator.generateReference(DefaultReferenceGenerator.java:39)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Property.encodeReference(Property.java:690)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Property.encode(Property.java:720)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalStore(Element.java:1688)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.internalStore(Element.java:1744)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1790)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1803)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1806)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.core.Element.store(Element.java:1838)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.alice.authoringtool.dialog.StoreElementProgressPane.construct(StoreElementProgressPane.java:47)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at edu.cmu.cs.stage3.progress.ProgressPane$2.run(ProgressPane.java:86)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141209/dfc07f43/attachment-0001.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141209/dfc07f43/attachment-0001.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 2<br class="">>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:57:50 -0500<br class="">>From: Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><br class="">>Subject: alice-teacher screen turning black<br class="">>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:8D1E3CE8D5CD265-1E4C-36C7D@webmail-vm044.sysops.aol.com" class="">8D1E3CE8D5CD265-1E4C-36C7D@webmail-vm044.sysops.aol.com</a>><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br class="">><br class="">>Is there a reason why sometimes the screen will turn black? It seems for no reason. Most times if the student just shuts it down and then reopens Alice (we're using 2.4.2), it is fine.<br class="">>Are we doing something that causes this?<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Laurie Cohen<br class="">>Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>Silver Spring, Maryland<br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141211/5db412e1/attachment-0001.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141211/5db412e1/attachment-0001.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 3<br class="">>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:53:01 -0500<br class="">>From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher screen turning black<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Message-ID:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><f0b63b23-fa5d-49bf-b2fc-44a84b0a8c63@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class="">><br class="">>Laurie,<br class="">>We have seen this as well, but not often enough for us to get figure out what is going? My guess is that it has something to do with the video card, but it is only a guess? You might try and update the drivers on your video cards (see this link for more information:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://alice3.pbworks.com/w/page/54959364/Updating" class="">http://alice3.pbworks.com/w/page/54959364/Updating</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Video Drivers). And it is true that restarting Alice tends to resolve the problem, but it certainly is irritating.<br class="">><br class="">>Have you noticed if it is the same machine or set of machines in your lab?<br class="">><br class="">>Thank you,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class="">wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Is there a reason why sometimes the screen will turn black? It seems for no reason. Most times if the student just shuts it down and then reopens Alice (we're using 2.4.2), it is fine.<br class="">>> Are we doing something that causes this?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Laurie Cohen<br class="">>> Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>> Silver Spring, Maryland<br class="">>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141212/d37c573b/attachment-0001.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141212/d37c573b/attachment-0001.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 4<br class="">>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:43:51 0000<br class="">>From: "McLean, Jennifer"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><jmclean@klschools.org class=""><br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1418737430416.25366@klschools.org" class="">1418737430416.25366@klschools.org</a>><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class="">><br class="">>I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Thanks, Jennifer McLean<br class="">><br class="">>________________________________<br class="">>From: alice-teachers-bounces<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">on behalf of Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">><br class="">>There are two possibilities:<br class="">><br class="">>1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?<br class="">>2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.<br class="">><br class="">>Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.<br class="">><br class="">>Let me know if you continue to have problems.<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">>On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com class="">> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.<br class="">>Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?<br class="">><br class="">>Laurie Cohen<br class="">><br class="">>-----Original Message-----<br class="">>From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class="">><br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class="">><br class="">>Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am<br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">><br class="">>I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?<br class="">><br class="">>(The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)<br class="">><br class="">>The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.<br class="">><br class="">>Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.<br class="">><br class="">>1) Quit Alice if it is running<br class="">>2) Restart Alice<br class="">>3) Help menu -> select Update Software<br class="">>4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery<br class="">>5) Click the Update button<br class="">><br class="">>(I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)<br class="">><br class="">>6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity<br class="">><br class="">>Here is where it might go wrong for you?<br class="">><br class="">>7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY<br class="">>8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)<br class="">><br class="">>We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?<br class="">><br class="">>9) Click the Resart button<br class="">><br class="">>The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><restart.png class=""><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com class="">> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.<br class="">>Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.<br class="">>Strange.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Laurie Cohen<br class="">>Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>Silver Spring, MD<br class="">>_______________________________________________<br class="">>alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>_______________________________________________<br class="">>alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>_______________________________________________<br class="">>alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/741a6c08/attachment-0001.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/741a6c08/attachment-0001.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 5<br class="">>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:04:40 -0500<br class="">>From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Message-ID:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><ac9da0f9-ffa6-4e58-8159-dcde812a0f12@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class="">><br class="">>See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?<br class="">><br class="">> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE" class="">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><http: www.youtube.com="" watch?v="RnRGg1KP9sE" class=""><br class="">><br class="">>Let me know if you have any other questions?<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><jmclean@klschools.org class="">wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Thanks, Jennifer McLean<br class="">>> From: alice-teachers-bounces<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">on behalf of Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM<br class="">>> To: Alice Teachers<br class="">>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> There are two possibilities:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> 1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?<br class="">>> 2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Let me know if you continue to have problems.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> All the best,<br class="">>> Don Slater<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com="" class="">> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.<br class="">>>> Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Laurie Cohen<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> -----Original Message-----<br class="">>>> From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu="" class="">><br class="">>>> To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" class="">><br class="">>>> Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am<br class="">>>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> (The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 1) Quit Alice if it is running<br class="">>>> 2) Restart Alice<br class="">>>> 3) Help menu -> select Update Software<br class="">>>> 4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery<br class="">>>> 5) Click the Update button<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> (I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Here is where it might go wrong for you?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY<br class="">>>> 8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 9) Click the Resart button<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> All the best,<br class="">>>> Don Slater<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><restart.png class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com="" class="">> wrote:<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.<br class="">>>>> Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.<br class="">>>>> Strange.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Laurie Cohen<br class="">>>>> Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>>>> Silver Spring, MD<br class="">>>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><https: lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" mailman="" listinfo="" alice-teachers="" class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><https: lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" mailman="" listinfo="" alice-teachers="" class=""><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/1874a5da/attachment-0002.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/1874a5da/attachment-0002.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 6<br class="">>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:04:40 -0500<br class="">>From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Message-ID:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><ac9da0f9-ffa6-4e58-8159-dcde812a0f12@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class="">><br class="">>See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?<br class="">><br class="">> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE" class="">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><http: www.youtube.com="" watch?v="RnRGg1KP9sE" class=""><br class="">><br class="">>Let me know if you have any other questions?<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><jmclean@klschools.org class="">wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Thanks, Jennifer McLean<br class="">>> From: alice-teachers-bounces<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">on behalf of Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM<br class="">>> To: Alice Teachers<br class="">>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> There are two possibilities:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> 1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?<br class="">>> 2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Let me know if you continue to have problems.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> All the best,<br class="">>> Don Slater<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com="" class="">> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.<br class="">>>> Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Laurie Cohen<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> -----Original Message-----<br class="">>>> From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu="" class="">><br class="">>>> To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" class="">><br class="">>>> Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am<br class="">>>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> (The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 1) Quit Alice if it is running<br class="">>>> 2) Restart Alice<br class="">>>> 3) Help menu -> select Update Software<br class="">>>> 4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery<br class="">>>> 5) Click the Update button<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> (I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Here is where it might go wrong for you?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY<br class="">>>> 8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 9) Click the Resart button<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> All the best,<br class="">>>> Don Slater<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><restart.png class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com="" class="">> wrote:<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.<br class="">>>>> Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.<br class="">>>>> Strange.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Laurie Cohen<br class="">>>>> Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>>>> Silver Spring, MD<br class="">>>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><https: lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" mailman="" listinfo="" alice-teachers="" class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><https: lists.andrew.cmu.edu="" mailman="" listinfo="" alice-teachers="" class=""><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>> alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">>URL:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/1874a5da/attachment-0003.html" class="">http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/alice-teachers/attachments/20141216/1874a5da/attachment-0003.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><br class="">>------------------------------<br class="">><br class="">>Message: 7<br class="">>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:28:33 0000<br class="">>From: "McLean, Jennifer"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><jmclean@klschools.org class=""><br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1418754512398.63606@klschools.org" class="">1418754512398.63606@klschools.org</a>><br class="">>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class="">><br class="">>Yes. That is what I did. Is there a way to insert the objects from a folder other than the default folder? I am on a network and the My Projects folder is not in the place where Alice was installed.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Thanks, Jen<br class="">><br class="">>________________________________<br class="">>From: alice-teachers-bounces<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">on behalf of Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:04 AM<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">><br class="">>See the following link to this YouTube video to see if it helps?<br class="">><br class="">><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE" class="">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRGg1KP9sE</a><br class="">><br class="">>Let me know if you have any other questions?<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:43 AM, McLean, Jennifer<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><jmclean@klschools.org class=""><mailto:jmclean@klschools.org class="">> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>I was trying to import the timer class that was created into alice 3.1. It was not showing up as an option. Does someone know how to do this?<br class="">><br class="">>Thanks, Jennifer McLean<br class="">>________________________________<br class="">>From: alice-teachers-bounces<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers-bounces jmclean="klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:alice-teachers-bounces" class="">> on behalf of Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class="">><br class="">>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:23 AM<br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">><br class="">>There are two possibilities:<br class="">><br class="">>1) Download and reinstall as you suggest?<br class="">>2) Go to the Alice directory on a machine that has the complete Gallery, and open the required directory there. Inside you will see a ?gallery? directory. Copy this complete directory and use it to replace the ?deficient? gallery directory on one of the other machines. Check to see if this worked for by starting Alice.<br class="">><br class="">>Whichever method seems to make the most sense for you.<br class="">><br class="">>Let me know if you continue to have problems.<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">>On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com class="">> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>No. When I follow what you said of how to update, I get a message File Not Found. Then when I click OK, it tells me to Restart for update to take effect. But nothing has been updated.<br class="">>Do you think I need to redownload and reinstall Alice in all the computers?<br class="">><br class="">>Laurie Cohen<br class="">><br class="">>-----Original Message-----<br class="">>From: Don Slater<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu class="">><br class="">>To: Alice Teachers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class="">><br class="">>Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 7:43 am<br class="">>Subject: Re: alice-teacher Objects in Gallery different<br class="">><br class="">>I do not have a good explanation for what is going on?<br class="">><br class="">>(The Space Gallery should have 15 objects in it)<br class="">><br class="">>The Alice 2 installation file is actually a zip or .dmg (Mac OS X) that contains the complete Alice package, including all the Gallery elements.<br class="">><br class="">>Try to Update Software -> Download English Gallery option again.<br class="">><br class="">>1) Quit Alice if it is running<br class="">>2) Restart Alice<br class="">>3) Help menu -> select Update Software<br class="">>4) Uncheck Update Software and check Download English Gallery (NOT Update English Gallery) -> this step should reinstall the complete Gallery<br class="">>5) Click the Update button<br class="">><br class="">>(I am sure that you followed all these steps, included here for the other members of the listserv)<br class="">><br class="">>6) A dialog box will appear with a download progress bar, showing the download activity<br class="">><br class="">>Here is where it might go wrong for you?<br class="">><br class="">>7) The dialog box with the progress bar will disappear? BUT ALICE IS NOT YET DONE INSTALLING THE GALLERY<br class="">>8) You will have to wait a few seconds until a dialog box telling you to restart Alice will appear (see attached image)<br class="">><br class="">>We recognize that this is non-intuitive and are working on a solution? But Alice at this point has handed off the unzipping of the downloaded Gallery file to your operating system, and so Alice waits until that operation is complete, and then the restart dialog box will appear?<br class="">><br class="">>9) Click the Resart button<br class="">><br class="">>The Gallery should now be updated and complete. Please let us know if you continue to have problems?<br class="">><br class="">>All the best,<br class="">>Don Slater<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><restart.png class=""><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>On Dec 3, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Laurie Solomon Cohen<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><lscohen613@aol.com class=""><mailto:lscohen613@aol.com class="">> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">>We downloaded Alice 2.4.2 for all the workstations in our school lab. However, a few of the workstations have more Gallery items than others. For example, SPACE has 5 items (Classes) in most of the stations, but on one computer there are a lot more. There are more in Environments as well. I tried to Update, but it seems to be up to date.<br class="">>Could it be that some of the Gallery items were downloaded from somewhere else? But they are a part of the regular Gallery, not the Custom Gallery.<br class="">>Strange.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>Laurie Cohen<br class="">>Yeshiva of Greater Washington<br class="">>Silver Spring, MD<br class="">>_______________________________________________<br class="">>alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>_______________________________________________<br class="">>alice-teachers mailing list<br class="">><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu class=""><br class="">><a 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