alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12- Problem running Alice 2.x (Rex McKanry)

Rex McKanry rmckanry at stchas.edu
Thu Sep 19 14:53:50 EDT 2013 

Hi Bob,



The only differences I see at the OS and the Alice application locaton. I have Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit) and I have Alice 2.3 in the Program Files folder. Out of those two I believe you are correct about Alice being in the Program Files folder.



I copied my Alice 2.3 from the Program Files folder and placed it in the My Documents folder. I then renamed the Alice2.3 folder in the Program Files folder. I tested the new copy of Alice2.3 in the MyDocuments folder to make sure it opened and it did fine. So I went to my .a2w file and right clicked it so I could select which app to open it with, I navigated to the new copy of Alice2.3 in the My Documents folder and it would not open. It opened Adobe Reader instead (not sure why). I tried this a couple times and it still would not assocated the .a2w file with the Alice2.3 application in the My Documents fiolder. I then deleted the copy of Alice2.3 from the My Documents folder and returned the name of my orignal Alice2.3 folder in the Program Files folder and than re assocated the file with the Alice application in the Program Files folder. Not it's back to normal.



Just to see if it works I would just try and copy your Alice2.3 folder over to the Program Files folder and try to open with again without deleting the Alice2.3 folder in the My Documents folder and test it.



Let me know what happens.



Thanks,

Rex

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From: alice-teachers-bounces+rmckanry=stchas.edu at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <alice-teachers-bounces+rmckanry=stchas.edu at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of robert durtschi <robert_durtschi at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12- Problem running Alice 2.x (Rex McKanry)

Hi Rex;

Your computer must be setup differently than mine. I had tried that in the past and it didn't work.  I tried it just now, carefully following your instructions and it still doesn't work:

I've got Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit running on an Acer laptop.
Alice is installed in the My Documents directory

I right clicked on an .a2w file and choose "Open With"
 The "Choose the program you want to use to open the file" window popped up.
Ignored the two choices offered by the OS (Firefox and IE) and clicked on "Choose default program..."
In the new pop-up ignored the Recommended Programs (Firefox and IE) and clicked "Browse..."
Clicked on the arrow next to "My Documents" to expand the folder selections
Scrolled down to the "Alice 2.3" folder
Clicked on the folder to open it.
Clicked on Alice.exe (My default is to show known extensions, I've been a programmer for 40+ years)
Clicked on the Open button
Windows went back to the "Choose the program you want to use to open the file" window but did Not show Alice as an option.

Just to verify that it's Alice that Windows (on my computer) hates, I hit browse again and navigated down to and selected java.exe
This time it showed a plethora of choices (my favorite word since I saw the movie "The Three Amigos")

The only thing I can think of off-hand is that Alice.exe is not installed in the "program files" directory so is not recognized as "real" application program. Or perhaps there is a registery entry that I need to add.

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.

 Bob Durtschi


From: Rex McKanry <rmckanry at stchas.edu>
To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12- Problem running Alice 2.x (JACKIE MASLOFF)

Hi All,

What I have done is right click the .a2w file and clicked open. When the popup window opens and ask to "Open With" I will browse for the Alice application on my hard drive and select that. I would also make sure that the "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" check box is checked. This assigns all files with the .a2w extension to open with the Alice application.

Thanks,
Rex

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Subject: Re: alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12- Problem running Alice 2.x (JACKIE MASLOFF)

Jackie;

I'm guessing from your email that you are trying to run an Alice xxx.a2w file by double clicking on it.
the Alice 2 World (.a2w) files that Alice produces are really zip files that contains the elements of the world. Unfortunately Windows ignores the A2W extension and treats it as a .zip file.

The only way I've found to run an Alice 2 World is to start Alice and open it from within Alice.

Best
Bob Durtschi

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Today's Topics:

  1.  Problem running Alice 2.x (JACKIE MASLOFF)
  2.  Problems with running Alice 2.x (JACKIE MASLOFF)
  3.  User created ground in Alice 3 question (Myra J. Deister)
  4. Re:  User created ground in Alice 3 question (Don Slater)


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I have a student in my class who downloaded Alice and then appears to have started running it from the zip file. Now when he tries to open files from Windows explorer he gets a message that "you are attempting to run Alice from a zip file."

So I downloaded Alice again and then unzipped it to the Program files directory and tried again to open a file from Windows explorer and get the same message.

I am baffled by this. Any suggestions?

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Jackie Masloff
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I have a student in my class who downloaded Alice and then appears to have started running it from the zip file. Now when he tries to open files from Windows explorer he gets a message that "you are attempting to run Alice from a zip file." The student is running Windows 8.

So I downloaded Alice again and then unzipped it to the Program files directory and tried again to open a file from Windows explorer and get the same message.

I am baffled by this. Any suggestions?
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Myra,
See the video at this link, and let me know if this is not what you are looking for?

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2332970/ChangeGroundTexture.mp4

I hope that this helps?

All the best,
Don Slater


On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:40 AM, "Myra J. Deister" <mjdeister at fjuhsd.k12.ca.us<mailto:mjdeister at fjuhsd.k12.ca.us>> wrote:

> I am rewriting the labs for Alice/Media Comp for Alice 3.  One lab that I am working on is importing a small gradient square into Alice to use as the ground.  It is possible to do that in Alice 2, but I can't seem to figure out how to do it in Alice 3.  Is it possible?
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