alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9
nancy hoorn
njhoorn at gmail.com
Sat Oct 20 10:45:20 EDT 2012
Hi, all -- yes, Susan -- I have used the duke site myself to learn Alice.
I was referring to the site which has solutions, etc. Several times this
has been referred to on this list. I emailed the person named in those
references and received no answer of any kind (no bounced e-mail, either).
Could someone provide up to date information on who to contact for this?
As I do not have e-mails for anyone, telling me their names will not help
much. :)
Thanks!
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> 1. Re: Common repository for shared resources (Keith Golebie)
> 2. Re: Common repository for shared resources (nancy hoorn)
> 3. Re: duke website info. (Susan Rodger)
> 4. Re: Common repository for shared resources
> (dwilkins at richardwinn.org)
> 5. s post from jhancock at sgfl.org.uk requires approval
> (alice-teachers-owner at lists.andrew.cmu.edu)
> 6. Alice 3.1 Video demonstration: GetTextString from user
> (Don Slater)
> 7. Re: s post from lscohen613 at aol.com requires approval (Don Slater)
> 8. Re: Common repository for shared resources (Janice Carpini)
> 9. Alice 3 objects in alice 2.2 (Milbury, Michael)
> 10. Re: Alice 3 objects in alice 2.2 (Don Slater)
> 11. Rubrics--what do you use for grading Alice projects?
> (Kenneth McCarthy)
> 12. int as string? (Mark Holthouse)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:02:40 +0000
> From: Keith Golebie <kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> To: "Alice educators (alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu)"
> <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> Don,
>
> Would it be possible to do both on the same site? An open section for
> everyone, especially students, and a secure area with a logon for teachers.
> Having them both on the same site would be great. I have a few students
> that are working ahead independently, and a single resource would be great.
>
> Just want to tell you once again what a success Alice has been here in EC.
> We have used Alice to get the technology ball rolling and it has delivered.
> In fact, I have several students this year who are not in the programming
> class, but are working through the course on their own, just following
> along with what we are doing. I have quite a few students who have
> installed it at home, and are really making progress. One student told me
> just yesterday, that last weekend she went on a 9 hour car trip with her
> family to visit relatives and spent the entire car ride working on Alice!
> To me that's amazing, for a high school student. That's been another
> bonus. Last year, our first year with programming, the class was all males.
> This year, we have quite a few young ladies taking programming. We were
> able to do some encouraging last year, demonstrating with Alice, and it
> paid off.
>
> Thanks for all you guys do to support us out here in the classroom!
>
> Keith
>
>
> Mr. Golebie
> kgolebie at ellwood.k12.pa.us
> Rm 219 x3219
> Lincoln High School
> Ellwood City Area School District
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alice-teachers-bounces+kgolebie=
> ellwood.k12.pa.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu [mailto:
> alice-teachers-bounces+kgolebie=ellwood.k12.pa.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu]
> On Behalf Of Don Slater
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:41 PM
> To: Alice Teachers
> Subject: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
>
> I have heard your request for a common location for shared resources,
> which is an excellent idea, and one that has been on my radar for some time.
>
> I am now examining options as to how to best facilitate such a
> repository...
>
> The question I want to ask the community: How secure do we want this
> resource to be? If this repository contains problem / exercise solutions,
> do we want to insure that students do not have access to it?
>
> Have a good weekend,
> Don Slater
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:10:02 -0400
> From: nancy hoorn <njhoorn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> Hi, Don and all,
> While I appreciate the need for teacher-only access, I e-mailed the person
> who has the teacher resources password/login and never heard back. If it
> is a secure place, please be sure that it is always possible to obtain the
> needed information as a teacher. :)
> Thanks for all of your hard work -- I know how time consuming this can be!
>
> BTW, we can set the option to receive our own replies individually. I've
> never seen this option on a list before, so didn't know to look for it. I
> have changed it on my preferences.
> Thanks for including the information again, even though somewhere I do have
> it. :)
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > I have heard your request for a common location for shared resources,
> > which is an excellent idea, and one that has been on my radar for some
> time.
> >
> > I am now examining options as to how to best facilitate such a
> repository?
> >
> > The question I want to ask the community: How secure do we want this
> > resource to be? If this repository contains problem / exercise solutions,
> > do we want to insure that students do not have access to it?
> >
> > Have a good weekend,
> > Don Slater
> >
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:29:39 -0400
> From: Susan Rodger <rodger at cs.duke.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher duke website info.
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>, "Sean M.
> Hoffman" <shoffman at oconee.k12.sc.us>
> Message-ID: <20121014112939.EBB849200EF at collard.cs.duke.edu>
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>
> There is no password for the Duke website.
>
> Perhaps you are getting confused with the Alice Instructional materials
> off the Alice website
>
>
> http://alice.org/index.php?page=instructional_materials/instructional_materials
>
> which leads to
>
> aliceprogramming.net
>
> If that is the case, contact the owners of that website (Wanda, Steve or
> Don).
>
> Susan
>
> ===========================================================================
> Susan Rodger, Professor of the Practice
> Computer Science, LSRC D237
> 308 Research Drive, Box 90129
> Duke University, Durham, NC 27708-0129
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> Phone: (919)-660-6595 Fax: (919)-660-6519
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:33:35 -0500
> From: dwilkins at richardwinn.org
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Message-ID: <22f6f18870f60f390651c81b1c534ee6 at richardwinn.org>
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>
> Hello, All,
>
> I prefer that the problems, exercises, tests, and
> exams remain "for teachers only". I make use of those resources often as
> I develop assessments for my 9th graders. My vote is to keep them
> protected.
>
> Donna Wilkins
>
> On 12-10-2012, Don Slater wrote:
>
> > I have
> heard your request for a common location for shared resources, which is
> an excellent idea, and one that has been on my radar for some time.
> >
> >
> I am now examining options as to how to best facilitate such a
> repository?
> >
> > The question I want to ask the community: How secure do
> we want this resource to be? If this repository contains problem /
> exercise solutions, do we want to insure that students do not have
> access to it?
> >
> > Have a good weekend,
> > Don Slater
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:47:34 -0400
> From: alice-teachers-owner at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> Subject: alice-teacher s post from jhancock at sgfl.org.uk requires
> approval
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> From: "jhancock at sgfl.org.uk" <jhancock at sgfl.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> Date: October 14, 2012 8:47:31 AM EDT
> To: "Alice educators" <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
>
>
> But the point of having a differentiated guide is to all students, no
> matter their ability to use the software to fulfil their imagination and
> potential.
>
> As teachers/educators we have to ensure that every student can make
> progress and for some that means easy to access guides that they can use
> themselves without having to constantly call us over and give them some
> independence when they come across a problem that could very easily disrupt
> the lesson, their learning, their self esteem etc
> Justina
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Gamez, Enrique A (3012)" <enrique.a.gamez at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: "Alice educators" <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> Date: Sat, Oct 13, 2012 07:43
>
>
> I'm a simple home-schooling father trying to teach my kids Alice v3, so
> take my advice with a grain of salt. I don't see what the concern is with
> having problem/exercise solutions available to students. Don't they still
> have to follow certain steps to create the videos? Don't you factor into
> exercises a certain amount of creativity which throws a wrench into
> standardized tests or solutions that could be copied? Once kids are out of
> school: life is an "open book test". Some kids will always try to cheat
> their way through a class. They will reap what they sow. Just move on.
> Life's too short.
>
> I say, let information be free. There are enough road blocks and
> undocumented features in Alice to stop even us teachers dead in our tracks
> (until Don is able to come to our rescue) without us making programming
> that much harder.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -e
>
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Reply-To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Date: Friday, October 12, 2012 7:40 PM
> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> Subject: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
>
> I have heard your request for a common location for shared resources,
> which is an excellent idea, and one that has been on my radar for some time.
>
> I am now examining options as to how to best facilitate such a repository?
>
> The question I want to ask the community: How secure do we want this
> resource to be? If this repository contains problem / exercise solutions,
> do we want to insure that students do not have access to it?
>
> Have a good weekend,
> Don Slater
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:41:27 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: alice-teacher Alice 3.1 Video demonstration: GetTextString
> from user
> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> A quick and dirty youtube video demonstrating the GetInputFromUser
> function in Alice 3.1. This also shows the use of a conditional statement
> for string comparisons.
>
> See this link:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgEjhf7Mi_0&feature=youtube_gdata
>
> Later,
> Don Slater
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> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:07:11 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher s post from lscohen613 at aol.com requires
> approval
> To: Laurie Solomon Cohen <lscohen613 at aol.com>
> Cc: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Message-ID: <686690BB-2140-40FE-B827-D034F6E32291 at andrew.cmu.edu>
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> Laurie,
> Could you tell us something about your machines? PC / Mac / Linux? Version
> of the OS? If these are PC, did you try and use Slow and Steady Alice,
> which comes with the PC download?
>
> Is this error repeatable? In other words, do you have specific worlds in
> which the same error always happens at the same place? If so, could you
> send us the world with the error message? If it seems more random, could
> you try and get a screen capture video of the running world with the error,
> and then send us the world and the screen capture so we can see what is
> going on?
>
> Thank you,
> Don Slater
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:56 AM, alice-teachers-owner at lists.andrew.cmu.eduwrote:
>
> >
> >
> > From: Laurie Solomon Cohen <lscohen613 at aol.com>
> > Subject: Alice error messages
> > Date: October 16, 2012 11:55:24 AM EDT
> > To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> >
> >
> > We are getting error messages with Alice, on specific machines. Certain
> machines are worse than others, even though all the computers in our lab
> are basically the same. The error message isn't really clear, it just says
> "error occurred" or sometimes "error occurred while Stopping". Sometimes
> the screen turns black, but it is all there.
> > We are using 2.3 which seemed better than we were experiencing with 2.2
> earlier in the year. Is there a way to better diagnose/correct the error
> messages? Maybe something computer specific like the RAM or video card
> going bad??
> > Our programs are not even that sophisticated yet (not interactive yet at
> all).
> > Suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurie Cohen
> > Technology Coordinator/Business Instructor
> > Yeshiva of Greater Washington
> > Silver Spring, Maryland
> > LCohen at yeshiva.edu
> > LSCohen613 at aol.com
> > 240-793-1269 cell
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:46:07 -0500
> From: Janice Carpini <carpinijanice at rockwood.k12.mo.us>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> I agree!
>
> From: alice-teachers-bounces+carpinijanice=
> rockwood.k12.mo.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu [mailto:
> alice-teachers-bounces+carpinijanice=
> rockwood.k12.mo.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of
> dwilkins at richardwinn.org
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: Alice educators
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Common repository for shared resources
>
>
> Hello, All,
>
> I prefer that the problems, exercises, tests, and exams remain "for
> teachers only". I make use of those resources often as I develop
> assessments for my 9th graders. My vote is to keep them protected.
>
>
>
> Donna Wilkins
>
>
>
> On 12-10-2012, Don Slater wrote:
>
> I have heard your request for a common location for shared resources,
> which is an excellent idea, and one that has been on my radar for some time.
>
>
>
> I am now examining options as to how to best facilitate such a repository?
>
>
>
> The question I want to ask the community: How secure do we want this
> resource to be? If this repository contains problem / exercise solutions,
> do we want to insure that students do not have access to it?
>
>
>
> Have a good weekend,
>
> Don Slater
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:20:53 +0000
> From: "Milbury, Michael" <Michael.Milbury at culver.org>
> Subject: alice-teacher Alice 3 objects in alice 2.2
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> I feel like the answer is no, but is it possible to create objects in
> Alice 3 and use them in 2.2?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> From: alice-teachers-bounces+michael.milbury=
> culver.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu [mailto:
> alice-teachers-bounces+michael.milbury=culver.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu]
> On Behalf Of Susan Rivas
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:27 AM
> To: Alice
> Subject: alice-teacher Student Friendly Guide
>
> Yes, please send one to me as well. Thank you!!!
>
> -Susan
>
> --
> ---------
> Susan Rivas
> Shoreline Middle School
> 855 17th Avenue
> Santa Cruz, CA 95062
> (831)475-6565 ext. 214
>
> http://www.shoreline.santacruz.k12.ca.us/departments/computer/clab.html
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> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:03:42 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Alice 3 objects in alice 2.2
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> Alice 3.1 models are significantly restructured. This restructuring
> includes a consistent internal skeletal and joint structure for each super
> class in the gallery (Biped, Quadruped, Flyer, Swimmer, Prop). The
> consistent internal structure allows for a class hierarchy needed for more
> faithful implementation of inheritance (an object-oriented concept) than
> does Alice 2. (Note that introductory students do not need this feature but
> more advanced student do.)
>
> The design of Alice 3 gallery models is joints-based (rather than
> subparts-based as used in Alice 2). Creating animations using components of
> an object now involves manipulation of the joints of an object instead of
> the sub-parts of an object. This may seem to be a subtle change, but it
> allows the use of a soft-skin for the models, creating more realistic
> animations when a component of a model is animated. For example, an object
> kicking its leg outward will no longer move outside its clothing, exposing
> a bare leg.
>
> This redesign of the gallery means that worlds created in Alice2.x, and
> worlds created in Alice 3.0 Beta , can not be imported into Alice 3.1. The
> models are fundamentally different, and there is no conversion utility
> currently planned that would support such a conversion.
>
> Part of this is also aesthetic. The Alice 3 environment models are richer,
> with much higher polygon counts, and "smooth-skinning", much more complex
> to become Alice 2 models in the Alice 2.x Virtual Machine.
>
> Later,
> Don Slater
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 10:20 AM, "Milbury, Michael" <
> Michael.Milbury at culver.org> wrote:
>
> > I feel like the answer is no, but is it possible to create objects in
> Alice 3 and use them in 2.2?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > From: alice-teachers-bounces+michael.milbury=
> culver.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu [mailto:
> alice-teachers-bounces+michael.milbury=culver.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu]
> On Behalf Of Susan Rivas
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:27 AM
> > To: Alice
> > Subject: alice-teacher Student Friendly Guide
> >
> > Yes, please send one to me as well. Thank you!!!
> >
> > -Susan
> >
> > --
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> > Susan Rivas
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:22:00 -0400
> From: Kenneth McCarthy <kmc610 at gmail.com>
> Subject: alice-teacher Rubrics--what do you use for grading Alice
> projects?
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> I hope everyone is having a wonderful year so far.
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> I am grateful for this community of Alice educators and I'd like to thank
> Don and Wanda for keeping us up to speed with the latest and the greatest
> when it comes to building our worlds in Alice.
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> This question goes out to teachers who are using Alice in the classrooms
> regularly this year:
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> What does your grading rubric often look like?
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> Best regards,
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> Ken
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> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:05:55 -0400
> From: Mark Holthouse <mholthouse at rcn.com>
> Subject: alice-teacher int as string?
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> It seems that the World function "int (what) as string" disappeared
> in the Alice 2.2 03/01/2012 Windows release. Can anyone offhand
> confirm that, and whether it's back in the 2.3 release? Or have way
> of using "(what) as string" that doesn't show decimal
> points? Unfortunately I'm stuck with that version for the school
> year because I had to freeze my image in June.
>
> Mark Holthouse
> Math, Science & Engineering
> Westwood (MA) High School
> http://www.mholthouse.org
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Nancy J Hoorn
Online math expert
WAY program
Certified math teacher
Graduate Student Full Sail University
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