[SCA-Dance] Fw: Belle Qui
mrailing2 at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 24 12:28:09 EDT 2010
We aren't the only one who have forgotten or didn't know that this choreography isn't period. I found a YouTube video of a Renaissance dance performance in Russia that closes with the circling bit from the Carolingian Pavan. (I suppose someone there could have learned it directly from Ingrid Brainard.)
From: Jane & Mark Waks <waks at comcast.net>
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Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 9:18:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Belle Qui
Greg Lindahl wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:28:16PM -0500, Iohann se pipere wrote:
>> My expertise is mostly in music, but I thought that this dance was
>> created by a SCAdian and merely set to the Renaissance tune "Belle
> Oh yeah, I completely forgot to mention that aspect:
> That's why we call the dance the "Carolingian Pavane" and not Belle Qui.
Just to clarify from Gregory's slightly terse notes, since some readers
probably don't know the characters: the dance probably was not written
by a SCAdian, but was popularized by us.
Ingrid Brainard was one of the serious scholars of renaissance dance,
who gave Carolingia its start in the field. (She passed away a few years
ago.) She's responsible for one of the major reconstruction styles of
early Italian (although the Sparti style has become more dominant in
recent years), and taught a lot of us at various times.
Baron Patri was a longtime student and friend of hers, as well as one of
the founders of Carolingia and one of the SCA's first great
dancemasters. My general understanding is that Ingrid came up with more
or less this choreography as an example (or possibly for a performance
of her dance troupe), and it got into the SCA via Patri. As that got
spread around the Society that example became "the way it's done". This
happens a lot in SCA dance, and is the usual danger of providing one
example of a more flexible form.
So "Carolingian Pavane" basically alludes to the fact that this
choreography spread from Carolingia outward -- we didn't write it, but
were largely responsible for it getting around...
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