[SCA-Dance] SCA Created Dances

Stapana Catriona Moriarity catriona_a_morganosa at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 29 12:45:04 EDT 2010


We have several ways to dance the beginning bits of Hole in the Wall and 
Well Hall. They end up also being anti-sharking maneuvers!

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Stapana Catriona Moriarity, OP
Maitresse Tanglwyst de Holloway, OP Too!

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From: <peregrine.lp at juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] SCA Created Dances

> My own theory on the bowing and scraping in Hole in the Wall as was danced 
> in the SCA: I think it was incorporated to use up time in the music. We 
> sometimes dance it in our non-SCA English Country group (with Regency 
> leanings :)  ) and people seem to have a lot of trouble keeping the dance 
> under control. They either want to dance it in 4, or they dance it in 6 
> but are ahead.
>
> Peregrine
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com>
> To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] SCA Created Dances
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Troika is based on a Russian folk dance.  I learned the actual 
> choreography at a folk dance workshop.  The major difference is that the 
> trios are arranged as spokes of a wheel, and during the "run forward" part 
> the middle person runs forward to the next set of people.  There is no 
> "melee".  Of course the original music is different.  The SCA version uses 
> a cut from the soundtrack of Henry VIII and His Six Wives (the movie, not 
> the PBS series) called "Street Music".  (This is the same soundtrack album 
> the music for Mannschaft comes from.)
>
> I get the impression that the bowing and scraping in Hole in the Wall is 
> actually the fault of Regency fandom.  The palming appears to be an SCA 
> thing.  I can remember when we didn't do it in this dance.  Try asking old 
> Carolingians.  I suspect it is due to Patri that Hole in the Wall is an 
> SCA tradition.
>
> --Urraca
>
>
>
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> From: Michael Bergman <eclectic at mit.edu>
> To: Gwommy 'Bill' Holderman <gwommy at gmail.com>
> Cc: SCA Dance List <sca-dance at sca-dance.org>
> Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 11:14:18 PM
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>
> I haven't seen anyone mention Hole in the Wall.  The SCA choreography
> is actually a bit different than modern ECD, with the excessive bowing
> and scraping, palming, early 17th century steps, and if you add in
> sharking (or kidnapping, as it was called when I learned it), it all
> adds up to a related, but different, dance than the one modern ECD
> folks do.
>
> Also, Troika, which I don't believe has any folk dance roots.  I think
> it was just made up from period iconography mixed with sheer
> ignorance.
>
> I don't know if it was performed more than once, but there's the
> Guillaume Jehan Pavanne, which a bunch of Marklanders inflicted on
> innocent SCAdians at Pennsic some 20+ years ago.
>
> Similarly, but more recently, the Brandle de Poule
> (http://www.kickery.com/2010/04/branle-de-la-poule.html).
>
> --Harald Longfellow
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