[SCA-Dance] Not a Known World Dance Seminar?

Mary Railing mrailing2 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 23 23:01:52 EDT 2009

The bid approval process is described in excruciating detail here:

What I have not been able to locate is whether the SCA, Inc. has trademarked "Known World".  It would have made sense for the corporation to have done so, but it is never written with  a TM or ® mark.  If they have, they own it--end of story.  If they haven't, then they can't legally control the use of the phrase.  All the same, if it were up to me, I wouldn't antagonize them by fighting over the name.

If an event like Crystal Ball can draw from four or five kingdoms while still being a "local" event, I don't see that being "Known World" is as important as being well-organized and well-promoted.


From: Lesley Longhurst <lrw at clear.net.nz>
To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Not a Known World Dance Seminar?

Hi all,

I'm poking my nose in for the first time in a number of years... (I'll 
probably regret it later).

Surely the proper way for this to be handled, if SCA Inc does indeed 
have control of the "Known World" name, would be for them to delegate 
the bid approval process to a sub-committee-type-body composed of people 
who have an interest in organising, running and attending the event, 
with a pro forma presence from some higher authority for liaison 
purposes.  It might be necessary to formally create a sub-committee of 
some sort for this purpose, if one doesn't already exist. Either a 
mundane sub-committee, or a group composed of the recipients of some 
order or other - you're creative people, I'm sure you could think of 
something suitable.

Personally, even though I've never attended one, I think it would be 
very sad to lose the KWDS name.

(goes back to lurking)

Lesley Longhurst (previously Walker)
Linux Systems Administrator
Opus International Consultants Ltd
Email lesley.longhurst at opus.co.nz
Tel +64 4 471 7002, Fax +64 4 473 3017
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Wellington, New Zealand

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