[SCA-BMDL] Salve Accolens! A Motto for the Debatable Lands

[Gwenly Grace]

Greetings,

I categorically disagree that the announcement represented a policy
decision. Furthermore, the announcement was clearly invitational in
terminology: "we hope you will join us," etc. To suggest that it was
imperious is, to put it mildly, unkind.

As a corollary, I don't recall anyone in the populace being consulted or
asked to vote about "Ad gloriam AEthelmearc" (or the original and incorrect
"In Glorias" version)--it was decided by a sitting royal and it was the
task of that royalty to exhort the populace to follow. We did in fact force
a modification, but we could, collectively, have decided "Nope, not doing
that."

Similarly, if someone writes a song for the barony or the kingdom, it's not
a requirement that the populace adopt it. To me a motto falls in the same
category, and is well within the purview of the Baron and Baroness.

I have no objection to soliciting suggestions, or asking for a vote, but I
believe the original motto is fitting, and was chosen with only good
intention. But vote or no vote, let's be clear that nothing about this
appears to be a violation of policy.

Ever in service,

Gwendolyn the Graceful, Brehyres, OL


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:29 PM Shawn MacIntyre <medicmacintyre at gmail.com>
wrote:

> However, you seem to have already made a decision on your own without
> discussing it at a meeting, your "announcement" was making a policy without
> discussion. It was not pointed out as "Optional" until someone questioned
> the announcement.
>
> Baronial Policy Section I Subsection B,
>
>   B. Baronial policies may be created or changed by the Officers. Proposed
> additions or changes to Baronial policies must appear on the agenda of the
> Officers' meeting at which they are ratified. In this circumstance the
> proposed changes shall be and the agenda shall be announced to the populace
> on the Baronial email list at least 48 hours before the meeting.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:23 PM Krista Cogan <krista.cogan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What an excellent idea! See what we can accomplish together? I wish I
>> would have thought of it myself! Thank you!
>>
>> See, here is the beauty of game side stuff - it's flexy!
>>
>> ~Bns. Hilda
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:00 PM Shawn MacIntyre <
>> medicmacintyre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While the idea of a "Motto" for the Barony may be a great idea, I have
>>> an issue with this not being brought up for public discussion and chosen by
>>> the few, Who had input in the process? I have attended all the business
>>> meetings because they are held at my church. I think a better idea would be
>>> to get input from all the members of the barony, perhaps have a contest to
>>> choose a motto rather than singularly making a decision on behalf of the
>>> populace. While there is a "Game Side" and a" Business Side" to the SCA, a
>>> motto is something that the populace as a whole should decide. While you
>>> point out that the motto is about Love and Acceptance, it lacks the input
>>> of the many, which is the opposite of acceptance. The Hael and Thescorre's
>>> motto have meaning to the populace because they represent something special
>>> that the populace can get behind. Picking a motto is more like making a
>>> campaign saying, while your backers may get behind it, without a reason to
>>> stand by it, it is a saying, not a motto.
>>>
>>> Maighstir Liam
>>> 7th Baron of the Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands (Retired)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 4:35 PM Stórfréttir Updates <
>>> admin at debatablelands.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is new Baronial News at the Stórfréttir!
>>>>
>>>> Salve Accolens! A Motto for the Debatable Lands
>>>> Posted by: Hilderun Hugelman
>>>>
>>>> Note to those reading from the email list, click on the link below to
>>>> see a formatted version with live links at the blog website. On this, the
>>>> eve of our third Debatable Lands Equestrian Championship (details, and
>>>> schedule), we'd like to introduce to you our new Baronial motto! SALVE
>>>> ACCOLENS! What does it mean? HELLO NEIGHBORS! It is the week of World
>>>> Kindness Day, embodied by the greatest modern champion of kindness and
>>>> courtesy, especially toward oneself and their neighbors: Mr. Fred Rogers.
>>>> The Debatable Lands is his home Barony, and we hope that all our people
>>>> will strive toward these ideals: kindness, courtesy, generous and open
>>>> hearts, mindfulness to feelings, and to be helping and loving and
>>>> welcoming. All these, we feel, are encompassed by "Hello Neighbors" -
>>>> "Salve Accolens". We hope to enact these these ideals in word and deed, and
>>>> hope you all will join us. We are ALL each others' neighbors. SALVE
>>>> ACCOLENS! Please use this new Baronial motto with gusto and verity. (Also,
>>>> it's Latin, so you can say it the other way: ACCOLENS SALVE!) See you at
>>>> Baronial Equestrian Champs tomorrow! In Levitate et Caritate, and
>>>> Cheers,Baron Brandubh and Baroness Hilda "Listening is where love begins:
>>>> listening to ourselves and then to our neighbors." -Fred Rogers
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> To see or comment on this post on the Stórfréttir, click here:
>>>> http://debatablelands.org/blog/?p=4056.
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