From m.weihrauch at smartinmedia.com Sun Jun 16 04:43:50 2024 From: m.weihrauch at smartinmedia.com (Martin Weihrauch) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:43:50 +0000 Subject: DICOM question In-Reply-To: References: , <84bfaffbc1c14e6784247ffde1621cb6@nki.nl> Message-ID: Dear community, we implemented the capability for DICOM in our Image Management System for our customers a while ago. What I personally hate is the multi-file-format, which most (all?) vendors seem to have implemented, which is in essence one DICOM file per zoom level. In an environment where appr. 1,000 slides are scanned per day, image management just becomes messier (you cannot convince me otherwise ?). I read the NEMA standard, but did not find, if storing everything in a single slide would also be in agreement with the DICOM standard. Does someone have more insight into this or has someone maybe even implemented a converter (multi to single file DICOM)? 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In an environment where appr. 1,000 slides are scanned per day, image management just becomes messier (you cannot convince me otherwise ?). I read the NEMA standard, but did not find, if storing everything in a single slide would also be in agreement with the DICOM standard. Does someone have more insight into this or has someone maybe even implemented a converter (multi to single file DICOM)? Best and have a great Euro-championship, Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dclunie at dclunie.com Sun Jun 16 07:01:28 2024 From: dclunie at dclunie.com (=?UTF-8?Q?David_Clunie?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 11:01:28 +0000 Subject: DICOM question In-Reply-To: References: <84bfaffbc1c14e6784247ffde1621cb6@nki.nl> <79C06AC7-62EC-49E1-9E9C-E773E8E7009A@dclunie.com> Message-ID: <0100019020b5922f-5c700032-9622-4beb-aa7e-06a8205beae0-000000@email.amazonses.com> No. On June 16, 2024 4:53:14 AM EDT, Martin Weihrauch wrote: I made a typo: I meant: Is it possible according to DICOM to store all zoom levels into a single FILE (not slide). ? Thx ? From: openslide-users On Behalf Of Martin Weihrauch Sent: Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024 10:44 To: openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu Subject: DICOM question ? Dear community, ? we implemented the capability for DICOM in our Image Management System for our customers a while ago. What I personally hate is the multi-file-format, which most (all?) vendors seem to have implemented, which is in essence one DICOM file per zoom level. In an environment where appr. 1,000 slides are scanned per day, image management just becomes messier (you cannot convince me otherwise ?). ? I read the NEMA standard, but did not find, if storing everything in a single slide would also be in agreement with the DICOM standard. ? Does someone have more insight into this or has someone maybe even implemented a converter (multi to single file DICOM)? Best and have a great Euro-championship, Martin ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcupitt at gmail.com Sun Jun 16 08:32:11 2024 From: jcupitt at gmail.com (jcupitt at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 13:32:11 +0100 Subject: DICOM question In-Reply-To: References: <84bfaffbc1c14e6784247ffde1621cb6@nki.nl> Message-ID: Hello Martin, You could put them into an uncompressed zip64, that would be fast and easy to deal with. But of course many slide formats are multi-file, so I think a robust system for handling them is probably a hard requirement for any slide manager, unfortunately. John On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 at 09:54, Martin Weihrauch wrote: > > I made a typo: > > I meant: Is it possible according to DICOM to store all zoom levels into a single FILE (not slide). > > > > Thx > > > > From: openslide-users On Behalf Of Martin Weihrauch > Sent: Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024 10:44 > To: openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > Subject: DICOM question > > > > Dear community, > > > > we implemented the capability for DICOM in our Image Management System for our customers a while ago. What I personally hate is the multi-file-format, which most (all?) vendors seem to have implemented, which is in essence one DICOM file per zoom level. In an environment where appr. 1,000 slides are scanned per day, image management just becomes messier (you cannot convince me otherwise ?). > > > > I read the NEMA standard, but did not find, if storing everything in a single slide would also be in agreement with the DICOM standard. > > > > Does someone have more insight into this or has someone maybe even implemented a converter (multi to single file DICOM)? > > Best and have a great Euro-championship, > > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > openslide-users mailing list > openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/openslide-users From m.weihrauch at smartinmedia.com Sun Jun 16 10:26:57 2024 From: m.weihrauch at smartinmedia.com (Martin Weihrauch) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 14:26:57 +0000 Subject: DICOM question In-Reply-To: References: <84bfaffbc1c14e6784247ffde1621cb6@nki.nl> Message-ID: ? Exactly my thought & wouldnt be the first time you and I use ZIP ? Gesendet von Outlook f?r Android ________________________________ From: jcupitt at gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 2:32:11 PM To: Martin Weihrauch Cc: openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: DICOM question Hello Martin, You could put them into an uncompressed zip64, that would be fast and easy to deal with. But of course many slide formats are multi-file, so I think a robust system for handling them is probably a hard requirement for any slide manager, unfortunately. John On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 at 09:54, Martin Weihrauch wrote: > > I made a typo: > > I meant: Is it possible according to DICOM to store all zoom levels into a single FILE (not slide). > > > > Thx > > > > From: openslide-users On Behalf Of Martin Weihrauch > Sent: Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024 10:44 > To: openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > Subject: DICOM question > > > > Dear community, > > > > we implemented the capability for DICOM in our Image Management System for our customers a while ago. What I personally hate is the multi-file-format, which most (all?) vendors seem to have implemented, which is in essence one DICOM file per zoom level. In an environment where appr. 1,000 slides are scanned per day, image management just becomes messier (you cannot convince me otherwise ?). > > > > I read the NEMA standard, but did not find, if storing everything in a single slide would also be in agreement with the DICOM standard. > > > > Does someone have more insight into this or has someone maybe even implemented a converter (multi to single file DICOM)? > > Best and have a great Euro-championship, > > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > openslide-users mailing list > openslide-users at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/openslide-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: