Simon Matter simon.matter at
Wed Sep 22 08:44:00 EDT 2010

> On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:
>> --On 22. September 2010 07:47:26 -0400 Jeffrey T Eaton <jeaton at>
>> wrote:
>>> All of that said, I believe that, in general, you can safely upgrade
>>> BDB.
>>> If you have a Cyrus installation using BDB X, you can drop in a new
>>> Cyrus
>>> using BDB Y, as long as everything is shut down in between.  You can't
>>> go
>>> back without effort, but upgrades should work.
>> I'm pretty sure that's not true. *If* an application uses BDB's
>> environment features (not all do!), you *cannot* simply upgrade, unless
>> the application is programmed to perform the upgrade automatically.
>> Otherwise you have to either use db_upgrade to convert the environment
>> to the current version, or you use db_dump and db_load. There's a
>> db_upgrade() call in the library that could be used, but it might not
>> work in all cases:
>> Errors
>> The DB->upgrade() method may fail and return one of the following
>> non-zero errors:
>> DB_OLD_VERSION - The database cannot be upgraded by this version of the
>> Berkeley DB software.
>> --
>>    .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:.
>>                .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:.
>> .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:.
> Hmm.  I thought that I had updated BDB in the past.  I probably just nuked
> the databases between updates, since we only used them for transient data
> (tls_sessions.db, deliver.db, ptscache,db).

You can upgrade between some versions but not all.

> The rest of my point stands;  changing the BDB version is a problem in and
> of itself, not changing the Cyrus version. I know of no reason why one
> couldn't update a Cyrus 2.2 installation to 2.3.

Well, I never said it's a problem of Cyrus, it's a problem of BDB. Just
ask the OpenLDAP folks - and those doing distribution packages for it.

The only way I see for Cyrus is to stay away from it.


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