Expire (manually) TLS sessions?

Jeff Blaine jblaine at kickflop.net
Wed Jan 21 13:02:32 EST 2009


I raised syslog info to local6.debug and the TLS session with
Thunderbird and NO certs shows this:

Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 636471 local6.notice] TLS server 
engine: cannot load CA data
Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 286863 local6.notice] 
imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters
Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 277171 local6.error] TLS server 
engine: No CA file specified. Client side certs may not work
Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 574029 local6.debug] 
SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait
Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 192010 local6.debug] decryption 
failed or bad record mac in SSL_accept() -> fail
Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 239158 local6.notice] STARTTLS 
negotiation failed: myclient.our.com [xx.xx.6.52]

Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> --On 21. Januar 2009 11:19:31 -0500 Jeff Blaine <jblaine at kickflop.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for the delay -- I had my wedding and a brief
>> mini-honeymoon to attend to ;)
> 
> congrats!
> 
>>> How about Thunderbird using a password for authentication? Is that an
>>> option at all?
>>
>> I realize this is a little "all over the road" here,
>> but bear with me as I am just trying to get something
>> working at this point for our users who are now
>> without secure IMAP :(
>>
>> With "TLS" selected in Thunderbird, I am given no
>> choice but to select a client certificate.  See
>> attached images.
> 
> I wonder why that is. The only reason that comes to mind is that you 
> *have* a certificate. I don't and so I'm never asked to use it. So why 
> don't you try removing your certificate? Honestly, I would expect the 
> same to happen that happens when you use SSL, but you never know.
> 
>> Another user reports that GNU Emacs with the Gnus
>> client works with SSL and port 993.  I've confirmed
>> this in the log:
>>
>> Jan 21 11:11:03 imapsrv imaps[14170]: [ID 277583 local6.notice] login:
>> jimbo-host.our.com [xx.xx.50.67] jimbo plaintext+TLS User logged in
>>
>> If I configure Thunderbird to do that (SSL via 993),
>> I get the following:
>>
>> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 636471 local6.notice] TLS
>> server engine: cannot load CA data
>> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 286863 local6.notice]
>> imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters
>> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 798856 local6.notice] imaps TLS
>> negotiation failed: myclient.our.com
>> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 637875 local6.error] Fatal
>> error: tls_start_servertls() failed
> 
> I have no idea why that happens. I just tried it myself and got the 
> following in our log:
> 
> Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: accepted connection
> Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait
> Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: SSL_accept() succeeded -> done
> Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: starttls: TLSv1 with cipher 
> AES256-SHA (256/256 bits new) no authentication
> Jan 21 18:17:53 lvr13 imaps[9855]: login: [redacted] User logged in
> 
> Could it be that your OpenSSL version or your certificate somehow don't 
> support features that Thunderbird requires? I'm really no expert, but I 
> know that client and server *negotiate* about these things. And the 
> error reads "negotiation failed" ...
> 
> If your server is accessible over the Internet, perhaps I could try 
> connecting to it with "openssl s_client". That might tell us something. 
> You can try that as well, of course.


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