Derrick J Brashear shadow at
Sun Apr 24 10:33:04 EDT 2005

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> The Sieve web page states:
>    At present, there is no mailing list or newsgroup for end users of
>    Sieve.
> I'm curious, how is it expected Sieve will be more widely adopted with
> 1) limited documentation (ie: not end-user friendly) and 2) no formal
> resources to discuss the protocol/language.

"It was like that when I found it", so I won't take the blame for the 
current situation. The thing that kills us is we've never been able to 
keep a technical writer long enough to get good documentation for 
anything. It's been on my "sucks" list since at least 2000, and it's an 
issue for internal software and not just Cyrus.

A mailing list can be gotten trivially though but that's not really all it 

> I've spent a significant amount of time perusing the net for resources -
> I found Websieve, great - but that doesn't help me educate end users on
> how to use this.

This probably sounds more accusatory than I mean it to, but if your users 
figured out how to use procmail I'd be shocked if they couldn't use sieve; 
In the pre-sieve days I used procmail on my own system, and sealed system 
was not a problem (that's what distributed filesystems are for); It would 
certainly be possible if not necessarily simplest to continue using 

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