alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1

Thu Feb 8 09:43:02 EST 2018

Yvonne,
The My Projects directory that Alice 3 uses is located in the users home directory on the Mac, and I believe the Documents directory of the user on the PC.

Is it possible that the permissions settings for these student directories prevent access by Alice? It is possible for the students to browse to other locations on the system to save the Alice projects.

Are there other issues that you are having that I have not addressed here?

Thank you,
Don Slater

Alice Project

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Yvonne Perez <yvonne.perez at aliceisd.net> wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble with student work saving in "my projects" help.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
> Understood.  I definitely understand the difference between the vehicle option I outlined and the panning to follow that you desire. I was just offering up a different option for a dynamic camera movement that could follow an object that you may already be using until we could implement the solution you desire.   As Don said we will definitely look into why the point at method isn't functioning during a do together in Alice 3 and so is not achieving what you want.
> 
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric
> 
> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org <mailto:jmelia at bcps.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but I don't want the camera attached to anything. For instance "Camera move right 10" do together "point at chair" and the camera will move right 10 but not continue pointing at the chair, so the chair goes out of view. These were basic scenarios we did with camera movement in Alice 2.4, but it doesn't work the same or just doesn't work in 3.1. If that is the case, I will go back to 2.43...
> >
> > Jim Melia
> > Technology
> > Lansdowne High School
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia <mailto:alice-teachers-bounces%2Bjmelia>=bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>] On Behalf Of Eric Brown
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:50 PM
> > To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> > Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
> >
> > You could in code or in the scene editor "set camera vehicle to object”.  If in code just do it before the animation instructions.  The camera will then follow at the same view that it has at that point.
> >
> > If needed you could use "camera point at object” before setting the vehicle to have the camera orient to the object first if it isn’t already centered.
> >
> > If you desire it to not follow the object after that point then set the vehicle back to “this" after that.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org <mailto:jmelia at bcps.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nope- the camera can’t move on it’s own and remain centered on the object…. The camera just moves to the right as the object goes out of view…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is unfortunate, as it is a basic skill I teach at the beginning to get camera and object movement experimentation among the students, and it won’t work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I hope you find a solution. I may go back and just load 2.4.3 back onto the machines….
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Melia
> >>
> >> Technology
> >>
> >> Lansdowne High School
> >>
> >> <image001.png>
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> >>
> >> From: alice-teachers [mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmelia <mailto:alice-teachers-bounces%2Bjmelia>=bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:bcps.org at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>] On Behalf Of Donald Slater
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:58 PM
> >> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>>
> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Camera issues with 3.1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> You are right, this code in Alice 3 does not function the same way as it does in Alice 2, and right now I do not have a good explanation for it. Here is a work around that comes close to replicating the Alice 2 behavior. You may play with
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do Together
> >>
> >>   camera move right 10 meters duration 4 seconds Begin and End Abruptly
> >>
> >>   Count 4
> >>
> >>       Camera pointAt (obj) duhration 1 Second Begin and End Abruptly
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me know if you have any questions...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don Slater
> >>
> >> Alice Project
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Melia, James E. <jmelia at bcps.org <mailto:jmelia at bcps.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I used to do a “do together”
> >>
> >>                Object MOVE right 10
> >>
> >>                Camera POINT AT Object
> >>
> >> and the camera would follow the object. It does not do this in 3.1.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How do I make the camera stationary but focused on a moving object?
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Melia
> >>
> >> Lansdowne HS
> >>
> >> Baltimore County Schools
> >>
> >> jmelia at bcps.org <mailto:jmelia at bcps.org>
> >>
> >> 443-255-6729 <tel:443-255-6729>
> >>
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