alice-teacher How do you import objects from 2.2 or 2.3 gallery?

Don Slater dslater at andrew.cmu.edu
Sun Sep 30 19:17:22 EDT 2012


You can modify an Alice object within the program (change the color, size, texture map, etc of an object and save it out (right-click save object)…

You can import a 2D image (jpg, png, gif, tif) into an Alice world…

Creating a new, original 3D object is a more complex process…

See this link to the Objects Gallery for Alice 2.x page

	http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=gallery/index

and see the section on creating your own models.

Later,
Don Slater

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:52 PM, "Choe, Yoonsun  Ms. CIV OSD/DoDEA-Pacific" <Yoonsun.Choe at pac.dodea.edu> wrote:

> One of the tutorial made by Duke shows red dragon in the world, but the
> instruction calls for brown and instead of the red one.
> My students and I want to know way to expand our gallery in 2.0.
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>   1.  Printing code for objects in folders (David Fenton)
>   2.  Alice 2.3 bug with deleting an object on a list
>      (Steven Huss-Lederman)
>   3. Re:  Printing code for objects in folders (Don Slater)
>   4. Re:  Alice 2.3 bug with deleting an object on a list (Don Slater)
>   5.  When are clipboards like rabbits? (Don Slater)
>   6.  Updating 2.2 to 2.3 (Daryl Detrick)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:27:48 +1000
> From: David Fenton <fenton at fdn.uq.edu.au>
> Subject: alice-teacher Printing code for objects in folders
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> G'day,
> 
> I think I may have found a bug in Alice 2.2.
> 
> I encourage my students to put non-interacting objects into folders in
> the object tree.
> That works fine until one of my smart-alecs decided he would put
> interacting objects into folders too. He had methods and functions
> written for these objects. 
> 
> So when he uses 'export code for printing', none of the methods for
> objects inside folders, are visible to be checked off for printing.
> He solved the problem by taking the objects out of the folders,
> exporting his code, then not re-saving his Alice program.
> 
> Any ideas please?
> 
> Cheers
> David Fenton
> Coordinator of Information Technology Programmes University of
> Queensland Foundation Year Brisbane, Australia.
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:50:26 -0500
> From: Steven Huss-Lederman <huss at beloit.edu>
> Subject: alice-teacher Alice 2.3 bug with deleting an object on a list
> To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> Message-ID: <821A894C-EC0F-46A6-BEFA-4CECF22E9C14 at beloit.edu>
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> Hi,
> 
> Just in case others run into the same issue and to make sure it isn't
> something I'm doing wrong, I'll report a problem with Alice 2.3 that has
> caused issues for several students.  If you have an object on a list and
> you delete the object then Alice has an unknown error that won't go away
> (even after you say ok).  The only way we have found to get rid of it is
> to terminate the Alice process (force kill) in which you lose any
> unsaved work.  This happens on Mac OS 10.6.  I have not taken the time
> to test on Windows 7 or Alice 2.2 (to see if it is an old issue).  I can
> send in a world to demonstrate but simply put an object in a world,
> create a world Object list, add the object, save the list, then delete
> the item.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:36:54 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Printing code for objects in folders
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> This is interesting, and something we will look into.
> 
> Thank you for the report.
> 
> All the best,
> Don Slater
> 
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:27 PM, David Fenton <fenton at fdn.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> G'day,
>> 
>> I think I may have found a bug in Alice 2.2.
>> 
>> I encourage my students to put non-interacting objects into folders in
> the object tree.
>> That works fine until one of my smart-alecs decided he would put
> interacting objects into folders too. He had methods and functions
> written for these objects. 
>> 
>> So when he uses 'export code for printing', none of the methods for
> objects inside folders, are visible to be checked off for printing.
>> He solved the problem by taking the objects out of the folders,
> exporting his code, then not re-saving his Alice program.
>> 
>> Any ideas please?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> David Fenton
>> Coordinator of Information Technology Programmes University of 
>> Queensland Foundation Year Brisbane, Australia.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:52:27 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Alice 2.3 bug with deleting an object on a
> 	list
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Message-ID: <69EAF251-1F1D-4467-BD19-5895D7F4765E at andrew.cmu.edu>
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> 
> This is a known problem in Alice and there is no easy fix on our end, as
> it is more of a programmer error? Before deleting an object from the
> Alice world, a student would go through the code and delete all commands
> that are related to that object. This is also true for lists. The list
> element should be removed or set to a different object value, because
> once an object is deleted, Alice has no easy way to backtrack through
> all the code and find every place that object was moved. In fact, Alice
> has no way of knowing which element points to which object. 
> 
> The pointer from the list position to the object is a one-way path. The
> list knows that its 3rd element may be pointing to the dragon, but the
> dragon does not know that it is being pointed to by the 3rd element in
> the list. And so when the dragon is deleted, it cannot tell the list
> that its 3rd element should not point to it anymore.
> 
> Normally, when an object is deleted from an Alice world that is still
> being used in some way, a dialog box appears. listing all the places
> that object is being used. But the user is given the option to have all
> those references set to none, with the understanding that the user is
> taking responsibility for finding those <none> references, which will
> appear in red, and deleting the command, or changing the object using
> the command, from dragon to knight, for example.
> 
> I may be wrong, but I do not know that Alice can go back and set the
> list reference to <none> in red. And from your description, it sounds
> like Alice freezes up even before the user has a chance to go back to
> the list and reset the element. That is a problem that we can look at.
> 
> But students should be warned to be very careful about deleting objects
> from a world, without first being sure of all the possible side-effects.
> 
> All the best,
> Don Slater
> 
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Steven Huss-Lederman <huss at beloit.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just in case others run into the same issue and to make sure it isn't
> something I'm doing wrong, I'll report a problem with Alice 2.3 that has
> caused issues for several students.  If you have an object on a list and
> you delete the object then Alice has an unknown error that won't go away
> (even after you say ok).  The only way we have found to get rid of it is
> to terminate the Alice process (force kill) in which you lose any
> unsaved work.  This happens on Mac OS 10.6.  I have not taken the time
> to test on Windows 7 or Alice 2.2 (to see if it is an old issue).  I can
> send in a world to demonstrate but simply put an object in a world,
> create a world Object list, add the object, save the list, then delete
> the item.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:42:33 -0400
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: alice-teacher When are clipboards like rabbits?
> To: Alice Teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Cc: Aik Min <aik_min at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <FDD84480-8A9B-4737-B116-68A20658B169 at andrew.cmu.edu>
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> A question had been posed about the increasing numbers of clipboards in
> Alice. It seems that when one creates a new world in Alice, and
> increases the number of clipboards in Preferences -> Seldom Used, the
> right thing happens, initially. But if in the same session (in other
> words, without quitting Alice), if the user creates a new world, the
> number of clipboards available in that world becomes by (number of
> clipboards from the previous world + number of clipboards from the first
> world - 1).
> 
> In other words, I start a world, and increase the number of available
> clipboards to 4. I finish my work in that world, and decide to start a
> new world, or open a previously saved world, I will still have my four
> clipboards, but then Alice automatically gives me three more clipboards,
> so in this world I now have 7 clipboards. I then decide to open a third
> world, Alice gives me three more clipboards, so now I will have 10.
> 
> No idea why Alice is doing this, but we will certainly look at it.
> 
> Thank you to Karen Christy for pointing this out.
> 
> Later,
> Don Slater
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:06:44 -0400
> From: Daryl Detrick <DetrickD at warrenhills.org>
> Subject: alice-teacher Updating 2.2 to 2.3
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Message-ID: <7BE611D32DC77844B01A540996A602DC0286222A420B at mail>
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> 
> Don,
> 
> Looking at the instructions on alice.org, it seems to indicate that if
> we are using Alice 2.2 and click on update software, it will update to
> 2.3.  When we tried the update it still was 2.2.  Did I misunderstand
> the website information or is there something I did wrong?  If we go to
> 2.3, do we need to uninstall 2.2?
> 
> Thanks
> Daryl
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