alice-teacher (no subject)

Don Slater dslater at andrew.cmu.edu
Mon Feb 27 12:13:39 EST 2012


No, when objects are saved out, and then imported into another project, they are a fully implemented Alice model…

Later,
Don Slater

On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Rikki Fletcher wrote:

> Is this shallow copy issue also one where we save objects out and then
> import them?
> 
>> Alice 2.2 and Alice 3.0 Beta are not compatible…
>> 
>> It certainly is possible that the student has too many objects in the
>> scene…
>> 
>> I would recommend that the student scale back on the number of objects to
>> the bare minimum to tell the story, build the story, and slowly add
>> objects, saving at each step until it reaches the limits. WE cannot give
>> you a hard and fast number of objects, as they all have different memory
>> sizes.
>> 
>> With some objects that are being used solely as props / scenery, using the
>> clone tool in scene setup may allow you to add more copies of objects with
>> a reduced impact on memory. But I would recommend that you do not attempt
>> to animate these copies, as they are, in an object-oriented programming
>> sense, shallow copies, and trying to anmate them may create some
>> undesirable side-effects.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Don Slater
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:26 AM, kocafp at zoominternet.net wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Alice's working memory is not big enough , clipboard or otherwise---3.0
>>> Beta might do it?
>>> 
>>> Good Luck
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri 02/24/12 09:21 , "Thompson, Paul Dexter" thompspd at iupui.edu sent:
>>> 
>>> Are you running the latest release (12/01/2011)?
>>> 
>>> Paul Thompson, MSM, ITIL
>>> Adjunct Faculty - CIT
>>> Department of Computer, Information, and Leadership Technology
>>> Indiana University Purdue University at Indianapolis
>>> 799 West Michigan Street,
>>> Indianapolis, Indiana 46202
>>> Phone: (317) 292-8756
>>> Fax: (317) 278-3669
>>> thompspd at iupui.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: alice-teachers-bounces+thompspd=iupui.edu at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
>>> [alice-teachers-bounces+thompspd=iupui.edu at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] on
>>> behalf of Zippin, Mark [zippinm at sps.springfield.ma.us]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:46 PM
>>> To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
>>> Subject: alice-teacher (no subject)
>>> 
>>> One of my students has a pretty in-depth movie/game-in-progress.
>>> Unfortunately, when he adds objects,  the program closes without saving
>>> his work. This is a consistent problem. This problem will happen even if
>>> Alice is opened from the computer itself or the flash drive. We still
>>> have not started programing, we are just adding objects. The student is
>>> currently working on a game and is trying to make progress on the
>>> background and detail work for the game before the programming begins.
>>> 
>>> Would you know why his is happening, and would it have to do with the
>>> file using up a good amount of data, specifically about 73,675KB?
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark A. Zippin
>>> 
>>> Springfield Public Day High School
>>> 
>>> 90 Berkshire Ave.
>>> 
>>> Springfield, MA
>>> 
>>> 413.787.7036
>>> 
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