alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
Gabriel Alvarez
gaboatbugil at gmail.com
Thu Jan 27 05:35:59 EST 2011
Hello Folks:
Thank you for your comments regarding my previous questions. I have good
news, my student contacted a Korean tech support guy and he was able to fix
this app. As I understand, all he did for her was to install Alice in a
different folder than the default folder of the installation processs. So
she's good to go.
However, I and other students still face bugs sometimes when running the
program. Alice seems to spontaneously shut down or give bug errors often.
I will try the recommendations given by the members of the community.
Thank you all for your suggestions to this inquiry.
Best,
Gabriel
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> 1. Re: Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web (DELE ADEOGUN)
> 2. Re: s Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8 (june still)
> 3. Re: Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web (Arana Fireheart)
> 4. Application not configured correctly (Mary Barnes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:19:00 -0500
> From: DELE ADEOGUN <deleatl01 at email.phoenix.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> Hi Gabe,
> Version 2.2 runs on my 32 bit Windows 7. One suggestion is to run the
> program as an administrator. Accept all the prompts and run it that way.
> Thanks,
> Dele
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Gabriel Alvarez <gaboatbugil at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > I am new to teaching Alice to Korean students. We've selected Alice to be
> > our opening door to the Java world.
> > Right now, one of my students who has a 32-bit Windows 7 computer has a
> > problem opening Alice.
> >
> > She downloaded the 2.2 CD version that comes with the Alice text, as well
> > as the Web version, unfortunately, still doesn't work.
> >
> > Has anyone out there faced a similar problems running Alice 2.2 on their
> > PC?? Any feedback from this community is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > --
> > *Gabriel J. Alvarez*
> > *Education Technology/CS Instructor*
> > Bugil Academy 61 Dandaero
> > Shinbu-dong,Dongnam-gu,Cheonan-si,Chungnam-do,South Korea 330-941
> > Tel: 82-41-520-8845 Fax: 82-41-520-8820 http: www.bugilacademy.org /
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> >
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> ----------------------------------
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> Dele Adeogun
>
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> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:21:05 -0600
> From: june still <june1300 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher s Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8
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> >
> > The students I have on windows 7 could'nt get it to work either...it even
> > crashed one of the computers to the point they had to have the whole
> thing
> > reformatted.
> >
> june still
> Parkview Christian Academy
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:03:01 +0900
> > From: Gabriel Alvarez <gaboatbugil at gmail.com>
> > Subject: alice-teacher Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web
> > To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
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> >
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > I am new to teaching Alice to Korean students. We've selected Alice to be
> > our opening door to the Java world.
> > Right now, one of my students who has a 32-bit Windows 7 computer has a
> > problem opening Alice.
> >
> > She downloaded the 2.2 CD version that comes with the Alice text, as well
> > as
> > the Web version, unfortunately, still doesn't work.
> >
> > Has anyone out there faced a similar problems running Alice 2.2 on their
> > PC?? Any feedback from this community is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > --
> > *Gabriel J. Alvarez*
> > *Education Technology/CS Instructor*
> > Bugil Academy 61 Dandaero
> > Shinbu-dong,Dongnam-gu,Cheonan-si,Chungnam-do,South Korea 330-941
> > Tel: 82-41-520-8845 Fax: 82-41-520-8820 http: www.bugilacademy.org /
> > www.hanwha.co.kr/eng
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> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:07:44 -0500
> From: Arana Fireheart <arana.fireheart at newbury.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web
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> Gabe,
>
> I have found similar problems. We were able to get Alice to behave
> better by telling windows to launch the app in XP compatible mode. I didn't
> solve the problem, but seriously reduced the frequency of the crashing...
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Arana
>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:03:01 +0900
> > From: Gabriel Alvarez <gaboatbugil at gmail.com>
> > Subject: alice-teacher Problems Opening Alice 2.2 from CD or Web
> > To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> > Message-ID:
> > <AANLkTimYcE_5K_4gmp7E=bkAF3WaDJYNKp-N1pObSi1a at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > I am new to teaching Alice to Korean students. We've selected Alice to be
> > our opening door to the Java world.
> > Right now, one of my students who has a 32-bit Windows 7 computer has a
> > problem opening Alice.
> >
> > She downloaded the 2.2 CD version that comes with the Alice text, as well
> as
> > the Web version, unfortunately, still doesn't work.
> >
> > Has anyone out there faced a similar problems running Alice 2.2 on their
> > PC?? Any feedback from this community is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > --
> > *Gabriel J. Alvarez*
> > *Education Technology/CS Instructor*
> > Bugil Academy 61 Dandaero
> > Shinbu-dong,Dongnam-gu,Cheonan-si,Chungnam-do,South Korea 330-941
> > Tel: 82-41-520-8845 Fax: 82-41-520-8820 http: www.bugilacademy.org /
> > www.hanwha.co.kr/eng
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:25:53 -0500
> From: Mary Barnes <1320barnes at gmail.com>
> Subject: alice-teacher Application not configured correctly
> To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
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> Hi:
> I'm beginning to teach Alice 2.2 to juniors and seniors this week. It's
> loaded and working well except for on 2 computers. I've reloaded 3 or 4
> times a couple of different ways ( from our server and again from the
> website download directly). IT will launch if I go to the 'If Alice Fails
> Try This' but can I use that as a long term solution for these 2 computers?
> We are running XP. I've posted this to the forum and didn't get much
> response other than making the desktop shortcut point to the 'If Alice
> Fails" executable, which I guess I can do but I didn't think I should do
> that regularly.
>
> Also, I have one textbook but couldn't afford to buy any for my students.
> Any of you teaching without the textbook?
>
> Thanks,
> Mary Barnes
> Portersville Christian School
> m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org
> <m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org>
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:50:06 -0500
> From: Ella Glazer <ella.glazer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Application not configured correctly
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> I use handouts. I have a classroom set of texts but have not used them.
>
> Ella Glazer
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Mary Barnes <1320barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> > I'm beginning to teach Alice 2.2 to juniors and seniors this week. It's
> > loaded and working well except for on 2 computers. I've reloaded 3 or 4
> > times a couple of different ways ( from our server and again from the
> > website download directly). IT will launch if I go to the 'If Alice
> Fails
> > Try This' but can I use that as a long term solution for these 2
> computers?
> > We are running XP. I've posted this to the forum and didn't get much
> > response other than making the desktop shortcut point to the 'If Alice
> > Fails" executable, which I guess I can do but I didn't think I should do
> > that regularly.
> >
> > Also, I have one textbook but couldn't afford to buy any for my students.
> > Any of you teaching without the textbook?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mary Barnes
> > Portersville Christian School
> > m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org <
> m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org>
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:52:33 -0500
> From: Don Slater <dslater at andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Application not configured correctly
> To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
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> There have been several comments lately regarding Alice's inability to load
> or run correctly on some machine configurations.
>
> We have been finding that these problems seem to be related to the release
> of Alice 2.2 dated 9/10/2010.
>
> If you are experiencing these difficulties, right now we suggest that you
> try the previous release, dated 8/01/09. You can find this release on the
> Alice Downloads page for version 2.2, at the link "Previous Releases". This
> release seems to not have the same difficulties.
>
> http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/alice2.2_archive
>
> There actually is very little difference in the feature set of these two
> releases.
>
> Please let us know if you continue to have problems with this older
> release.
>
> Thank you for your patience,
> Don Slater
> Alice Team
> Carnegie Mellon University
> 5000 Forbes Avenue
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>
> Office phone: (412) 268-4370
>
> I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances
> confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life
> he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
> --- Henry David Thoreau
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> > I'm beginning to teach Alice 2.2 to juniors and seniors this week. It's
> loaded and working well except for on 2 computers. I've reloaded 3 or 4
> times a couple of different ways ( from our server and again from the
> website download directly). IT will launch if I go to the 'If Alice Fails
> Try This' but can I use that as a long term solution for these 2 computers?
> We are running XP. I've posted this to the forum and didn't get much
> response other than making the desktop shortcut point to the 'If Alice
> Fails" executable, which I guess I can do but I didn't think I should do
> that regularly.
> >
> > Also, I have one textbook but couldn't afford to buy any for my students.
> Any of you teaching without the textbook?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mary Barnes
> > Portersville Christian School
> > m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:52:45 -0600
> From: "RYAN NUTT" <RYAN.NUTT at cfisd.net>
> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Application not configured correctly
> To: <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> Message-ID: <4D3FD2BD.A38C.0074.1 at cfisd.net>
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> We have a class set of the Dann, Cooper, Pausch textbook for each of our CS
> labs but rarely use them. We did one lab out of them a couple years ago and
> while it was a good lab, the process of working from a book didn't work well
> for our kids. Now they're just mostly used for kids that want to do
> something extra to go and figure out how to do it.
>
> Our typical assignments are lab sheets that we put out on the server. A
> few started as a lab from the book, although we modify a bit. But most are
> labs that we built. For whatever reason our kids seem to do a better job
> when there's not a textbook involved. I guess working out of a book seems
> too much like class where working off of an online file is more fun.
>
> Ryan
>
> >>> Mary Barnes <1320barnes at gmail.com> 1/26/2011 7:25 AM >>>
> Hi:
> I'm beginning to teach Alice 2.2 to juniors and seniors this week. It's
> loaded and working well except for on 2 computers. I've reloaded 3 or 4
> times a couple of different ways ( from our server and again from the
> website download directly). IT will launch if I go to the 'If Alice Fails
> Try This' but can I use that as a long term solution for these 2 computers?
> We are running XP. I've posted this to the forum and didn't get much
> response other than making the desktop shortcut point to the 'If Alice
> Fails" executable, which I guess I can do but I didn't think I should do
> that regularly.
>
> Also, I have one textbook but couldn't afford to buy any for my students.
> Any of you teaching without the textbook?
>
> Thanks,
> Mary Barnes
> Portersville Christian School
> m.barnes at portersvillechristianschool.org
>
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*Gabriel J. Alvarez*
*Education Technology/CS Instructor*
Bugil Academy 61 Dandaero
Shinbu-dong,Dongnam-gu,Cheonan-si,Chungnam-do,South Korea 330-941
Tel: 82-41-520-8845 Fax: 82-41-520-8820 http: www.bugilacademy.org /
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