alice-teacher netbooks/battery life vs weight

Arturo Garcia Cole cole at ciencias.unam.mx
Wed Feb 2 14:56:31 EST 2011 

Dear Wanda
I hope you are well
receives greetings

Arturo Garcia Cole'm working in the CCH-South, I am a professor of physics,
belonging to the Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
I want to work with the Alice program, only wanted to show me where to find
a quick tutorial in which to make a simple example and others that can
perform more advanced and so on.
thanks

2011/2/2 Marilynn Huret <mhuret at mindspring.com>

>  Recently replaced a laptop. Took my flash/jump drive with Alice to the
> store (in my case, Best Buy) and was able to test the program on a computer
> I would be using (and it had to be lightweight-mobile)
>
>
>
> The only way a netbook would do the job is:
>
> 1. plugged in
>
> 2.connected to a larger monitor
>
> The battery capacity/run time is low to reduce the overall weight of the
> unit.
>
> Screen size can be adjusted...though here is a hint.
>
>
>
> At the bottom of the editing window, I insert several "comment" lines. This
> raises the window above the tool bar and makes it easier to see to drop the
> codes in. I also place the toolbar window at the side of the screen to give
> me more height
>
>
>
> -=mh=-
>
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> >Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Re: Netbooks (Leslyn Hardee)
> > 2. Re: Netbooks (Jeffrey Cohen)
> > 3. Re: Netbooks (James Vanderhyde)
> > 4. Re: Netbooks (Kristin Bedell)
> > 5. Re: Netbooks (Robert Dawson)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:13:33 -0500
> >From: Leslyn Hardee
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >To:
> >Message-ID:
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> >
> >LOL!
> >
> >I had a netbook (still do-- the baby-- six plays on it). They are not
> worth their 'weight' in gold at all! The memory on them is aweful and the
> extras you have to purchase don't make it worth the 'value' of having a
> smaller computer. With FULL laptops becoming ever so lighter and slimmer, I
> would suggest one of those. Also, you may want to look into writting a grant
> if the use is for Alice with your kids/ students!
> >
> >Leslyn Davis "Hardee"
> >
> >Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time
> we do. - Confucius
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:25:44 -0600
> >> From: James.Caristi at valpo.edu
> >> To: alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> >> Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >>
> >> Personally, I think a netbook is a bad idea, especially for Alice. You
> >> want as much power and memory as you can get. I would go with a
> >> standard "heavy" laptop. Besides, people need the exercise.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> --
> >>
> >> James Caristi
> >> Dept. of Math & Computer Science
> >> Valparaiso University
> >> Valparaiso, IN 46383
> >>
> >>
> >> >>> On 2/1/2011 at 8:20 AM, Don Slater
> >> wrote:
> >> > A forwarded question to the group?
> >> >
> >> > Don Slater
> >> >
> >> > -------- Original Message --------
> >> > Subject: Netbooks
> >> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:50:56 -0500
> >> > From: Wendy Marshall
> >> > To: Wanda Dann
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Wanda,
> >> > How are you? We are moving forward with purchasing netbooks for our
> >>
> >> > students using Alice and wondered if you might be able to post on
> >> your Alice
> >> > discussion board the question of what people recommend we purchase,
> >> in terms
> >> > of a netbook, that will successfully handle running Alice?
> >> >
> >> > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Wendy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Wendy J. Marshall
> >> > Director, Educational Technology Center
> >> > Georgia Department of Education
> >> > Armstrong Atlantic State University
> >> > 11935 Abercorn St.
> >> > Savannah, GA 31419
> >> > 912 344-2633
> >> > 912 344-3444 (Fax)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:57:30 -0500
> >From: Jeffrey Cohen
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >To: Alice educators
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> >
> >I would agree. The viewable window on a netbook is quite limiting with
> >all the different 'windows' alice.
> >
> >Jeffrey Cohen
> >The Red Oaks School
> >Morristown, NJ 07960
> >www.redoaksschool.org
> >973-539-7853 x 32
> >
> >On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, James Caristi wrote:
> >
> >> Personally, I think a netbook is a bad idea, especially for Alice. You
> >> want as much power and memory as you can get. I would go with a
> >> standard "heavy" laptop. Besides, people need the exercise.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> --
> >>
> >> James Caristi
> >> Dept. of Math & Computer Science
> >> Valparaiso University
> >> Valparaiso, IN 46383
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> On 2/1/2011 at 8:20 AM, Don Slater
> >> wrote:
> >>> A forwarded question to the group?
> >>>
> >>> Don Slater
> >>>
> >>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>> Subject: Netbooks
> >>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:50:56 -0500
> >>> From: Wendy Marshall
> >>> To: Wanda Dann
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wanda,
> >>> How are you? We are moving forward with purchasing netbooks for our
> >>
> >>> students using Alice and wondered if you might be able to post on
> >> your Alice
> >>> discussion board the question of what people recommend we purchase,
> >> in terms
> >>> of a netbook, that will successfully handle running Alice?
> >>>
> >>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Wendy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wendy J. Marshall
> >>> Director, Educational Technology Center
> >>> Georgia Department of Education
> >>> Armstrong Atlantic State University
> >>> 11935 Abercorn St.
> >>> Savannah, GA 31419
> >>> 912 344-2633
> >>> 912 344-3444 (Fax)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:30:46 -0600
> >From: James Vanderhyde
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >To: Alice educators
> >Message-ID: <1ADD9E98-08E3-482E-9019-F7E4F5116785 at benedictine.edu>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >I'm not sure about other laptops, but on my MacBook Pro Alice drains the
> battery, and fast. Make sure you try it out on the Netbook in question
> before committing.
> >
> >James
> >--
> >Dr. James Vanderhyde
> >Math and Computer Science
> >Benedictine College
> >jvanderhyde at benedictine.edu
> >http://vanderhyde.us/~james/pro/ <http://vanderhyde.us/%7Ejames/pro/>
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, James Caristi wrote:
> >>
> >>> Personally, I think a netbook is a bad idea, especially for Alice. You
> >>> want as much power and memory as you can get. I would go with a
> >>> standard "heavy" laptop. Besides, people need the exercise.
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:35:16 -0500
> >From: Kristin Bedell
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >To: Alice educators
> >Message-ID:
> >
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> >FWIW: I've been using netbooks with my 5th graders, since the lab is
> usually
> >booked, and it has been difficult. They are forced to constantly scroll,
> >which makes coding/debugging difficult and the text is so tiny that it is
> >hard for some of them to read. They are great kids and have been willing
> to
> >work through the difficulties, but I can see where older students might be
>
> >less enamored/motivated. I wouldn't recommend netbooks if there is any
> >other option.
> >
> >-Kristin Bedell
> >
> >On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Don Slater wrote:
> >
> >> A forwarded question to the group?
> >>
> >> Don Slater
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Netbooks
> >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:50:56 -0500
> >> From: Wendy Marshall
> >> To: Wanda Dann
> >>
> >>
> >> Wanda,
> >> How are you? We are moving forward with purchasing netbooks for our
> >> students using Alice and wondered if you might be able to post on your
> Alice
> >> discussion board the question of what people recommend we purchase, in
> terms
> >> of a netbook, that will successfully handle running Alice?
> >>
> >> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wendy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wendy J. Marshall
> >> Director, Educational Technology Center
> >> Georgia Department of Education
> >> Armstrong Atlantic State University
> >> 11935 Abercorn St.
> >> Savannah, GA 31419
> >> 912 344-2633
> >> 912 344-3444 (Fax)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >Message: 5
> >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:36:40 0800
> >From: Robert Dawson
> >Subject: Re: alice-teacher Netbooks
> >To: Alice educators
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> > I have to agree with some of the other commentators that express their
> >doubts about netbooks though. Netbook seems more and more like code for
> >"low powered".
> >
> >That being said, the requirements to run Alice are not demanding at all so
>
> >can be done with almost any computer on the market these days. Netbooks
> >could be an affordable alternative if you want to get the program into as
> >many hands as possible.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:30 AM, James Vanderhyde <
> >jvanderhyde at benedictine.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure about other laptops, but on my MacBook Pro Alice drains the
>
> >> battery, and fast. Make sure you try it out on the Netbook in question
> >> before committing.
> >>
> >> James
> >> --
> >> Dr. James Vanderhyde
> >> Math and Computer Science
> >> Benedictine College
> >> jvanderhyde at benedictine.edu
> >> http://vanderhyde.us/~james/pro/ <http://vanderhyde.us/%7Ejames/pro/>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, James Caristi
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Personally, I think a netbook is a bad idea, especially for Alice.
> You
> >> >> want as much power and memory as you can get. I would go with a
> >> >> standard "heavy" laptop. Besides, people need the exercise.
> >>
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