alice-teacher installing on workstations

Sat Aug 27 13:26:41 EDT 2011

Don,

I wouls assume that since multiple students are using the workstations they should consider using flash/thumb drives. That way there are no IT permissions and then the students can set the preferences to save to their drives or to a directory on the workstation designated for their individual work. Obtaining a batch of 2G drives for students to work with is a lot easier than worrying about installing on a lot of units

-=mh=-

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>From: "Quinn, John" <quinnjr at milwaukee.k12.wi.us>
>Subject: Re: alice-teacher requesting lab set up help
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>As I met with the district PC tech guy and we're planning to install Alice 2.2 in the computer lab at my school  (Windows XP workstations), I was asked the following question:  does Alice have "multiuser" capability in the sense that it could be installed on one shared network drive and everyone can use it, or should it be installed and configured on each individual machine?  [I think I know the answer already, but told him I would check.]  It seems that where Alice looks for the preference file when it opens could be the issue, as noted in the disucssion below.  In a network setting, the preferences would need to be user-specific rather than machine-specific.  Any thoughts to share??
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>Thanks,
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>John Quinn   
>Milwaukee Public Schools
>262-243-9430
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>From: alice-teachers-bounces+quinnjr=milwaukee.k12.wi.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu on behalf of Don Slater
>Sent: Thu 8/25/2011 12:38 PM
>To: Alice educators
>Subject: Re: alice-teacher requesting lab set up help
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>John,
>It may be helpful, but I am a big believer in the if it is not broke, don't fix it school of thought ;-)
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>You should probably try a couple more workstations just to be sure...
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>Keep me posted...
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>All the best,
>Don Slater
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>On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Quinn, John wrote:
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>> I did a trial install on one or the workstations in my classroom yesterday just to see if Alice 2.2 would indeed load and run.  Got an error message, then clicked on the "If Alice doesn't work try this" in the REQUIRED folder.  Then Alice loaded just fine.  Is the discussion below relevant for solving this problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Quinn (Milwaukee Public Schools)
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>> From: alice-teachers-bounces+quinnjr=milwaukee.k12.wi.us at lists.andrew.cmu.edu on behalf of Don Slater
>> Sent: Thu 8/25/2011 11:45 AM
>> To: Alice educators
>> Subject: Re: alice-teacher requesting lab set up help
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>> The following information is contained on the Alice 2.2 downloads page:
>>
>> Using Alice on a networked machine:
>>
>> Alice 2.0 compatibility with networked machines has been hit-or-miss. This was due to the Alice preferences file location being hard-coded as:
>> C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\.alice
>>
>> In cases where the user's home directory was not on the C drive or in a different path, Alice would throw up a gallery viewer error and possibly prevent the user from accessing Alice.
>>
>> We have modified Alice 2.2 to allow the user to enter in the path to a writable directory on any drive, networked or local. This can be done by opening up the following file in a text editor:
>>
>>        Alice 2.2\Required\etc\version.txt
>>
>> It should look like this:
>>        2.2 9/1/2008
>>        0x7F8AD1
>>
>> Add a new line at the bottom and enter in the *full* path to where you would like the preferences stored. This will need to be a writable directory. Do not use quotes. For example, if I wanted to change the location to my desktop on drive E, I would do the following:
>>        2.2 9/1/2008
>>        0x7F8AD1
>>        E:\Documents and Settings\jtimberlake\Desktop\.alice2
>>
>> Save the file and close it.
>>
>> If Alice is running, make sure to shut it down and restart.
>>
>> To confirm it is working, navigate to the directory you typed above and you should see a .alice2 directory. If you do not see one, make sure hidden directories are viewable.
>>
>> Let us know if you continue to have problems.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Don Slater
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Lorie Atkinson wrote:
>>
>>> I am teaching a beginning programming class and am having trouble setting up my students successfully to be able to use Alice.
>>>
>>> Items:
>>>  Students do not have access to the c: directories
>>>  Students have read access to the common y: directory
>>>  Students have their own folders on the h: drive
>>>
>>> Last year I copied Alice onto the common directory and the students were able to work. (small class)
>>> This year one student will work fine, then the other 10 will error loading.
>>>
>>> I am able to load Alice on to each computers' c: drive, but then they do not have access to a start icon.
>>>
>>> Just looking for ideas, thanks,
>>> Lorie Atkinson
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