From tmcd at panix.com  Sun Nov  9 23:25:58 2014
From: tmcd at panix.com (tmcd at panix.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 22:25:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Bransle du Rat?
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Someone mentioned Bransle du Rat.  I found a YouTube video, there was
a tune, it looked like a fun dance, we danced, all went "yay".

I Googled for it, but there are only some 60 hits, none were in
English, the one I translated said that they could not find it in
Orch{e'}sographie (despite what they'd heard), and I found only one
artist.

Anyone know anything about this dance or music?

Daniel Lincolia
-- 
Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com

From charlene281 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 02:02:38 2014
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 01:02:38 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Bransle du Rat?
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:25 PM,  <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> Someone mentioned Bransle du Rat.  I found a YouTube video, there was
> a tune, it looked like a fun dance, we danced, all went "yay".
>
> I Googled for it, but there are only some 60 hits, none were in
> English, the one I translated said that they could not find it in
> Orch{e'}sographie (despite what they'd heard), and I found only one
> artist.
>
> Anyone know anything about this dance or music?

Several sites (in French) claim the music is "a traditional tune from
southwest France." Unless I find evidence to the contrary, I usually
read "traditional" as "nineteenth-century."

Most of the sites I found with anything about the dance (rather than
the tune) were just shorthand aide-memoires on how to do a variety of
branles. Most seem to lump the dance in with Arbeau's branles; other
with various other folk dances.


I did find this Italian site. I have no idea how accurate their info is.

http://ballifolk.altervista.org/branle_du_rat.html

They claim the dance is originated in Czechoslovakia and was in vogue
in France c. 1830-1850. Their description of how to the dance
specifies polka steps (which is another argument in favor of a later
dating).

Perronnelle

From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 10 07:21:44 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:21:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Bransle du Rat?
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Bransles continued to be a type of dance in France long after Arbeau. However, like other folk dances, they evolved over time. Some would not look out of place in the sixteenth century. Some include modern elements like polka steps or balance and swing. You can't assume that a dance called a "bransle" is renaissance without a cited source.

--Urraca

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Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Bransle du Rat?


Someone mentioned Bransle du Rat.  I found a YouTube video, there was
a tune, it looked like a fun dance, we danced, all went "yay".

I Googled for it, but there are only some 60 hits, none were in
English, the one I translated said that they could not find it in
Orch{e'}sographie (despite what they'd heard), and I found only one
artist.

Anyone know anything about this dance or music?

Daniel Lincolia
-- 
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From lindahl at pbm.com  Mon Nov 10 22:56:08 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:56:08 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Bransle du Rat?
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 01:02:38AM -0600, Charlene C wrote:

> http://ballifolk.altervista.org/branle_du_rat.html
> 
> They claim the dance is originated in Czechoslovakia and was in vogue
> in France c. 1830-1850. Their description of how to the dance
> specifies polka steps (which is another argument in favor of a later
> dating).

Polka step not found in the Renaissance, no singles, no doubles, not
in a known Arbeau bransle formation (cf Occam's Razor reconstruction
of the Horses Bransle), a figure which no other Renaissance dance has
(the spinning thing), and the music is a fine Polka tune, which is not
much like Renaissance tunes. Cute lyrics about cats and rats, both of
which *were* present in the Renaissance.

-- Gregory



From judithsca at aol.com  Thu Nov 13 01:05:17 2014
From: judithsca at aol.com (Rachel/Judith)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:05:17 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Masque design at Known World Dance
Message-ID: <8D1CD1EEF1E4C10-FE8-126E0@webmail-va044.sysops.aol.com>


Salvete!
    
As some of you know, the upcoming Known World Dance Symposium shall feature a masque with the theme of lovers of legend and history. This will be the second masque I have designed and staged, and I thought it might be nice for this one to be a collaborative effort. If you are interested in helping design and script the masque, please let me know - I will be setting up a Facebook group as a communication platform. Components will include costume/prop design and construction on a practically non-existent budget, writing the script for the Greek chorus, choosing and perhaps modifying the performance dances, and other sundry aspects, including possibly song accompaniment!
Yours,
Judith, Event Steward KWDS 2015

From patches023 at verizon.net  Wed Nov 19 17:45:13 2014
From: patches023 at verizon.net (Patches)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:45:13 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Atlantia Dance Event: Storvik's Song and Dance
Message-ID: <004c01d0044a$7bb47760$731d6620$@verizon.net>

Greetings,

 

The Barony of Storvik is holding a day of dance and entertainment on January
24, 2015, in Beltsville, MD.  The site is a hotel, which has a ballroom (for
the dancing) and an auditorium. We hope to see some of you here.  In order
to have the maximum time for the ball and performances, we will be having a
potluck feast.  Please bring a dish to share.  Below is information about
the dancing and the performances.  We have a Facebook event here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1613985845495030/?ref_dashboard_filter=calen
dar  We have a basic website here:
acorn.atlantia.sca.org/event_flyer.php?event_id=f95e67bd.  We should have a
more detailed website soon.  The cost is $10 for members/$15 for nonmembers.

 

Dancing

We will have dance events all day including dance classes during the day and
a ball in the evening.  We will have an open band for the ball and some of
the dance instructors would welcome live music for the classes.  If you wish
to teach a class, please send me (Patches at patches023 at Verizon dot net)
the following information:

 

Name: Your name 
Point of Contact: Name and email address 
Level of Difficulty of the class: beginner (no experience necessary),
intermediate (should be at least familiar with basic steps), advanced
(should know very well the steps)

Region/Time period: English Country, 15th Century Italian, 16th Century
Italian, Inns of the Court, etc.
Title of your class: Can be a working title

Description of your class: What you intend to do. This is to help me
schedule things so we don't get a half dozen of the same thing all
back-to-back.
Time required: How long it takes to do your thing, including any set-up and
break-down.
Music needs/requests: Would you like to see if we can find live musicians
for your class (we would need a list of the dances you will be teaching)? We
have a speaker that can play iPhone 5, iPhone 4 and below, iPod, but no
non-Apple players.  We can also bring a cd player, if you are old school.

 

Performances

There's a narrow little elevated stage, and some additional space in front
of the stage on the ground.  We intend to fill the stage with performances
all day long. Choirs, ensembles, commedia troupes, individual performers;
music, miming, poetry, theater, storytelling - anything goes! (...almost
anything. I'm fairly certain the hotel won't like fire dancers.) This is a
great opportunity to do longer-form work, or to assemble a compelling
program of your short pieces.  Contact Teleri the Well-Prepared at sca_bard
AT yahoo dot com. This is what she needs from those interested:

Name: Name of the group or individual performing
Point of Contact: Name and email address of coordinator for groups; contact
info for individuals
Title of your program/performance: Can be a working title. 
Description of your program/performance: What you intend to do. This is to
help me schedule things so we don't get a half dozen of the same thing all
back-to-back.
Time required: How long it takes to do your thing, including any set-up and
break-down.
Other requirements: e.g., an electrical outlet for an amp. I can't guarantee
that I can meet them, but I will see what I can do.

Our preference is for 15- and 30-minute programs, to allow many people and
groups to take the stage. However, if your act cannot be done in less than
an hour, let's talk. We don't want to freeze out, say, the theater folks
with an arbitrary time limit.

Please re-distribute!

In service,
Patches 

Storvik Song and Dance Autocrat

 

Teleri the Well-Prepared
Storvik Song and Dance Deputy Autocrat for Performance

 

 

  _____  

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From charlene281 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 16:51:15 2014
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:51:15 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Are you on Facebook?
Message-ID: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>

Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.

Perronnelle

From ianthe at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 16:57:20 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:57:20 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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I'm on the group but I set notifications to off. So I don't see what's going on there.

Too many fb groups.

Lowrie 
Sent from my iPhone
http://nadinestudio.com

> On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> 
> Perronnelle
> ________________________________________________________________
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From lindahl at pbm.com  Fri Nov 21 17:28:27 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:28:27 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 03:51:15PM -0600, Charlene C wrote:

> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.

I'm on FB, but I've noticed that FB doesn't tell me about all of the
new postings on the Facebook group. And even when it does, it does so
with 8+ hour delays. So, just because you see someone on the FB group
doesn't mean they're liking it!

-- Gregory



From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 21 18:12:09 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:12:09 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
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I am on both, but this mailing list usually rejects my posts, so I prefer the Facebook group,although I hate Facebook in general.

-- Urraca


> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> 
> Perronnelle
> ________________________________________________________________
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> in the To line of any response.
> 
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> 
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From charlene281 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 19:03:25 2014
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:03:25 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am on both, but this mailing list usually rejects my posts, so I prefer the Facebook group,although I hate Facebook in general.
>
> -- Urraca

Generally speaking, I prefer email lists. But this one is a pain with
having to remember to format to subject just-right and default to
reply-to-sender instead of the list. And then there's the problem with
the Yahoo addresses; some lists still reject them and the ones that do
get through often end up in Gmail's spam folder. So, for quickie stuff
I tend to post to the FB group.

Perronnelle

From sbbush at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 21 19:27:14 2014
From: sbbush at earthlink.net (Steven Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:27:14 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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Message-ID: <546FD862.50209@earthlink.net>

I am not on Facebook at all.

Etienne

On 11/21/2014 3:51 PM, Charlene C wrote:
> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
>
> Perronnelle
> ________________________________________________________________
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>
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From ianthe at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 20:17:10 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:17:10 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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Message-ID: <CAHbX47k5nnpp3kyh-SHZ9LET3yCwB5e-T_ws9K=FLNjKK3JtFw@mail.gmail.com>

yeah, the settings on this mailing list are annoying.



On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am on both, but this mailing list usually rejects my posts, so I
> prefer the Facebook group,although I hate Facebook in general.
> >
> > -- Urraca
>
> Generally speaking, I prefer email lists. But this one is a pain with
> having to remember to format to subject just-right and default to
> reply-to-sender instead of the list. And then there's the problem with
> the Yahoo addresses; some lists still reject them and the ones that do
> get through often end up in Gmail's spam folder. So, for quickie stuff
> I tend to post to the FB group.
>
> Perronnelle
> ________________________________________________________________
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> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
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-- 
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From aylwengg at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 21:52:37 2014
From: aylwengg at gmail.com (Aylwen Gardiner-Garden)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:52:37 +1100
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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	<F447C3BD-A0C2-45C2-AB30-F4854732BDAB@yahoo.com>
	<CAHUFDpN9LzocrwRd0cpFCkmCizwW1j9POY9=N84ZV06hLwAn0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHbX47k5nnpp3kyh-SHZ9LET3yCwB5e-T_ws9K=FLNjKK3JtFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Please keep posting to this list, but change the reply-to settings so that
we can reply to the list and not the last sender.
Many thanks,
Aylwen

*Aylwen Gardiner-Garden*

*Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
<http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/>*

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah, the settings on this mailing list are annoying.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > I am on both, but this mailing list usually rejects my posts, so I
> > prefer the Facebook group,although I hate Facebook in general.
> > >
> > > -- Urraca
> >
> > Generally speaking, I prefer email lists. But this one is a pain with
> > having to remember to format to subject just-right and default to
> > reply-to-sender instead of the list. And then there's the problem with
> > the Yahoo addresses; some lists still reject them and the ones that do
> > get through often end up in Gmail's spam folder. So, for quickie stuff
> > I tend to post to the FB group.
> >
> > Perronnelle
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://nadinestudio.com
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From tmcd at panix.com  Fri Nov 21 22:39:51 2014
From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:39:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.

(1) *raises hand*

(2) "or"?

Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
this modern workstuff
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

From lgp477 at up.net  Sat Nov 22 09:37:41 2014
From: lgp477 at up.net (Donna)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:37:41 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411212139110.13922@panix3.panix.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411212139110.13922@panix3.panix.com>
Message-ID: <CALMKg=TRvDZQtf+L-xGwQGvuN4P0+9FwWxy9+3N+PenJC5Xsmw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
worries.
thanks,
Freydis

On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
>
> (1) *raises hand*
>
> (2) "or"?
>
> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> this modern workstuff
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> ________________________________________________________________
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> in the To line of any response.
>
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worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell

From marianne at historiaviva.org  Sat Nov 22 10:07:17 2014
From: marianne at historiaviva.org (Marianne Perdomo)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:07:17 +0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CALMKg=TRvDZQtf+L-xGwQGvuN4P0+9FwWxy9+3N+PenJC5Xsmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411212139110.13922@panix3.panix.com>
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I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
because of them.

Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online concordance
with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
those words. Does anyone have a link handy?

Cheers!


Marianne / Leonor

2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:

> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
> worries.
> thanks,
> Freydis
>
> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> >> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> >> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >
> > (1) *raises hand*
> >
> > (2) "or"?
> >
> > Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> > this modern workstuff
> > --
> > Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > ________________________________________________________________
> >
>
>
> --
> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
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>
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>

From ianthe at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 10:37:26 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:37:26 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CALMKg=TRvDZQtf+L-xGwQGvuN4P0+9FwWxy9+3N+PenJC5Xsmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35E706ED-97CB-4D36-AE04-E0038D6A9D9E@gmail.com>

Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by default?

Who is the admin?

Lowrie

Sent from my iPhone
http://nadinestudio.com

> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Marianne Perdomo <marianne at historiaviva.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
> I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
> because of them.
> 
> Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online concordance
> with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
> those words. Does anyone have a link handy?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> Marianne / Leonor
> 
> 2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:
> 
>> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
>> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
>> worries.
>> thanks,
>> Freydis
>> 
>>> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
>>>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
>>>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
>>> 
>>> (1) *raises hand*
>>> 
>>> (2) "or"?
>>> 
>>> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
>>> this modern workstuff
>>> --
>>> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
>> listed
>>> in the To line of any response.
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>>> 
>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
>> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
>> in the To line of any response.
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>> 
>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> 
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
> 
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> 
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From alaric at pobox.com  Sat Nov 22 10:53:53 2014
From: alaric at pobox.com (Alaric MacConnal)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:53:53 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <35E706ED-97CB-4D36-AE04-E0038D6A9D9E@gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411212139110.13922@panix3.panix.com>
	<CALMKg=TRvDZQtf+L-xGwQGvuN4P0+9FwWxy9+3N+PenJC5Xsmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Here's the link to the webpage that has the admin contact info:

https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance

Alaric

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by default?
>
> Who is the admin?
>
> Lowrie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> http://nadinestudio.com
>
>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Marianne Perdomo <marianne at historiaviva.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
>> I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
>> because of them.
>>
>> Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online concordance
>> with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
>> those words. Does anyone have a link handy?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> Marianne / Leonor
>>
>> 2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:
>>
>>> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
>>> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
>>> worries.
>>> thanks,
>>> Freydis
>>>
>>>> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
>>>>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
>>>>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
>>>>
>>>> (1) *raises hand*
>>>>
>>>> (2) "or"?
>>>>
>>>> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
>>>> this modern workstuff
>>>> --
>>>> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
>>> listed
>>>> in the To line of any response.
>>>>
>>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>>>>
>>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
>>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
>>> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
>>> in the To line of any response.
>>>
>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>>>
>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
>> in the To line of any response.
>>
>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>>
>> Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>> ________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
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From ianthe at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 10:58:09 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:58:09 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
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Hopefully the admin still reads the messages on the list :-P

Lowrie.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Alaric MacConnal <alaric at pobox.com> wrote:

> Here's the link to the webpage that has the admin contact info:
>
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>
> Alaric
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by
> default?
> >
> > Who is the admin?
> >
> > Lowrie
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > http://nadinestudio.com
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Marianne Perdomo <
> marianne at historiaviva.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
> >> I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
> >> because of them.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online
> concordance
> >> with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
> >> those words. Does anyone have a link handy?
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >>
> >> Marianne / Leonor
> >>
> >> 2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:
> >>
> >>> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
> >>> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
> >>> worries.
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Freydis
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> >>>>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> >>>>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >>>>
> >>>> (1) *raises hand*
> >>>>
> >>>> (2) "or"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> >>>> this modern workstuff
> >>>> --
> >>>> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> >>>> ________________________________________________________________
> >>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> >>> listed
> >>>> in the To line of any response.
> >>>>
> >>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> >>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> >>>> ________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
> >>> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
> >>> ________________________________________________________________
> >>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> >>> in the To line of any response.
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >>>
> >>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> >>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> >>> ________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> >> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> >> in the To line of any response.
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >>
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> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > ________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
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> ________________________________________________________________
>



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From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 22 14:58:01 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:58:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <829868429.2580199.1416686281768.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100116.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I think the online 16th century step concordance referred to on the Facebook group is this one:?Concordance of 16th-century Italian steps | Katherine's Renaissance Dance Pages
| ? |
| ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Concordance of 16th-century Italian steps | Katherine's Renaissance Dance PagesAlzata de Piedi ? ? ? ? ? ? Alzata de piedi 1 Balzetti ? Balzetti a piedi pari 43 ? Balzetti a piedi pari 50 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Balzetti inanzi 40 ? ? ? ? ? ? Balzetti indietro 41 ? ? ? ? ? ?  |
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--Urraca
      From: Marianne Perdomo <marianne at historiaviva.org>
 To: SCA Dance <sca-dance at sca-dance.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
   
I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
because of them.

Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online concordance
with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
those words. Does anyone have a link handy?

Cheers!


Marianne / Leonor

2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:

> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
> worries.
> thanks,
> Freydis
>
> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> >> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> >> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >
> > (1) *raises hand*
> >
> > (2) "or"?
> >
> > Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> > this modern workstuff
> > --
> > Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > ________________________________________________________________
> >
>
>
> --
> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell


> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________
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To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org

Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
________________________________________________________________


  

From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 22 15:05:47 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:05:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I, and others, have tried in the past to persuade Flip to change the settings on this list, but he really seems to believe that making it hard to post is better than allowing the tiniest chance of spam getting through.?
--Urraca
      From: Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com>
 To: "sca-dance at sca-dance.org" <sca-dance at sca-dance.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
   
Hopefully the admin still reads the messages on the list :-P

Lowrie.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Alaric MacConnal <alaric at pobox.com> wrote:

> Here's the link to the webpage that has the admin contact info:
>
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>
> Alaric
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by
> default?
> >
> > Who is the admin?
> >
> > Lowrie
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > http://nadinestudio.com
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Marianne Perdomo <
> marianne at historiaviva.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than optimally.
> >> I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
> >> because of them.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online
> concordance
> >> with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
> >> those words. Does anyone have a link handy?
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >>
> >> Marianne / Leonor
> >>
> >> 2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net>:
> >>
> >>> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
> >>> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
> >>> worries.
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Freydis
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> >>>>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> >>>>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >>>>
> >>>> (1) *raises hand*
> >>>>
> >>>> (2) "or"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> >>>> this modern workstuff
> >>>> --
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From lindahl at pbm.com  Sat Nov 22 15:19:23 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:19:23 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <829868429.2580199.1416686281768.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100116.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAMMYS2GPGfQ=yHE0YD-3ApYzdis1+TJcMKSA45qYg4J2cB2w2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<829868429.2580199.1416686281768.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100116.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20141122201923.GA14186@bx9.net>

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 07:58:01PM +0000, Mary Railing wrote:

> I think the online 16th century step concordance referred to on the Facebook group is this one:

Actually I meant the *word* concordance in each of my online transcriptions:

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/negri/transcription/
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/caroso/transcription/
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/caroso2/transcription/

Here's a direct link to Katherine's work, which is indeed a *step* concordance:

http://katherine.paradise.gen.nz/stepconcordance

I see she's got a lot of translations from Santucci and etc hidden away
under the concordance, I had no idea she was publishing translations.

And if you're looking into the steps across sources, you might be interested in
my plagiarism article "Copying between Negri and Caroso":

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/articles/copying.html

-- Gregory

From cellio at pobox.com  Sat Nov 22 22:44:53 2014
From: cellio at pobox.com (Monica Cellio)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 03:44:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230344280.29139@zeus.jtan.com>

No Facebook here.

She'erah


From cellio at pobox.com  Sat Nov 22 22:55:57 2014
From: cellio at pobox.com (Monica Cellio)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 03:55:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>

> Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by
> default?

I replied to this message by using the "reply all" feature of my mail 
program.  I'm having trouble understanding the problem.

By the way, while we're talking about the list and email clients, let's 
please remember to trim replies.  We don't need to send out a new copy of 
the entire thread every time somebody sends a message; everybody got it 
the first ten times.  Thanks.

She'erah


From lindahl at pbm.com  Sun Nov 23 00:20:59 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:20:59 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
Message-ID: <20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 03:55:57AM +0000, Monica Cellio wrote:

> I replied to this message by using the "reply all" feature of my mail 
> program.  I'm having trouble understanding the problem.

A lot of the issue here is that people get frustrated about the list
no matter where the problem is.

The problem with Yahoo subscribers having trouble sending list
postings is actually Yahoo's fault, but Yahoo Mail users (and everyone
else noticing Yahoo senders in their spam folders) generally don't
blame Yahoo for it.

Likewise, the overwhelming majority of email users have no idea how to
respond to the list if it does not default to reply-to-list. You and I
are both old timers on the Internet; I know which keys to hit to reply
to the list and to reply to only the sender. You do, too. Guess what?
This is 2014, and we're the 1%.

In any case, I would appreciate it if people would be nicer to Flip
about this. All my mailing lists died years ago, and I only recently
realized that these issues played a big role in it. sca-dance survived
much longer, but Facebook is an inexorable force. It's not clear that
Flip changing the mailing list configuration is anything other than
re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

-- Gregory, Internet veteran and failed mailing-list host



From mattender at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 00:23:47 2014
From: mattender at gmail.com (Matthew Ender)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:23:47 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
Message-ID: <CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>

For what it's worth, I'll be reading this mailing list forever, but will
never go to Facebook for it.

-- Matt/Orlando

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 03:55:57AM +0000, Monica Cellio wrote:
>
> > I replied to this message by using the "reply all" feature of my mail
> > program.  I'm having trouble understanding the problem.
>
> A lot of the issue here is that people get frustrated about the list
> no matter where the problem is.
>
> The problem with Yahoo subscribers having trouble sending list
> postings is actually Yahoo's fault, but Yahoo Mail users (and everyone
> else noticing Yahoo senders in their spam folders) generally don't
> blame Yahoo for it.
>
> Likewise, the overwhelming majority of email users have no idea how to
> respond to the list if it does not default to reply-to-list. You and I
> are both old timers on the Internet; I know which keys to hit to reply
> to the list and to reply to only the sender. You do, too. Guess what?
> This is 2014, and we're the 1%.
>
> In any case, I would appreciate it if people would be nicer to Flip
> about this. All my mailing lists died years ago, and I only recently
> realized that these issues played a big role in it. sca-dance survived
> much longer, but Facebook is an inexorable force. It's not clear that
> Flip changing the mailing list configuration is anything other than
> re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
>
> -- Gregory, Internet veteran and failed mailing-list host
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>

From ianthe at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 01:55:27 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:55:27 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
Message-ID: <CAHbX47=DzuwDaY9650CO-US9C+pxU1WmGFFAD9kL7W4G7F-_=g@mail.gmail.com>

I think when people give suggestions with good intentions (keeping the
mailing list alive and discussion friendly), it should be listened to
instead of lectured on. It's a minor change, but I guess it's easier to do
nothing.

Lowrie.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 03:55:57AM +0000, Monica Cellio wrote:
>
> > I replied to this message by using the "reply all" feature of my mail
> > program.  I'm having trouble understanding the problem.
>
> A lot of the issue here is that people get frustrated about the list
> no matter where the problem is.
>
> The problem with Yahoo subscribers having trouble sending list
> postings is actually Yahoo's fault, but Yahoo Mail users (and everyone
> else noticing Yahoo senders in their spam folders) generally don't
> blame Yahoo for it.
>
> Likewise, the overwhelming majority of email users have no idea how to
> respond to the list if it does not default to reply-to-list. You and I
> are both old timers on the Internet; I know which keys to hit to reply
> to the list and to reply to only the sender. You do, too. Guess what?
> This is 2014, and we're the 1%.
>
> In any case, I would appreciate it if people would be nicer to Flip
> about this. All my mailing lists died years ago, and I only recently
> realized that these issues played a big role in it. sca-dance survived
> much longer, but Facebook is an inexorable force. It's not clear that
> Flip changing the mailing list configuration is anything other than
> re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
>
> -- Gregory, Internet veteran and failed mailing-list host
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>



-- 
http://nadinestudio.com

From lindahl at pbm.com  Sun Nov 23 02:13:55 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:13:55 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHbX47=DzuwDaY9650CO-US9C+pxU1WmGFFAD9kL7W4G7F-_=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CAHbX47=DzuwDaY9650CO-US9C+pxU1WmGFFAD9kL7W4G7F-_=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141123071355.GA31629@bx9.net>

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:55:27AM -0600, Nadine wrote:

> I think when people give suggestions with good intentions (keeping the
> mailing list alive and discussion friendly), it should be listened to
> instead of lectured on. It's a minor change, but I guess it's easier to do
> nothing.

I was neither lecturing nor suggesting nothing should be done. I
certainly was listening and appreciating the good intentions of the
people making suggestions. In fact, I've made the changes that you
suggested to the mailing lists that I run years ago.

-- Gregory




From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 23 11:32:31 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:32:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1751469345.2700535.1416760351240.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100176.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

As regards wondering where to post: There are a lot of names I see in the dance discussions on Facebook that I never see here, so if you want to reach everybody, you really have to post in both places. The whole reason I joined Facebook was because I realized that that was where the active discussion was on a whole lot of SCA topics that used to be primarily on mailing lists. ?If Facebook vanished, I would be happier, but right now it's too big to ignore.
--Urraca
      From: Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com>
 To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 4:51 PM
 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
   
Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.

Perronnelle
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From patches023 at verizon.net  Sun Nov 23 12:44:34 2014
From: patches023 at verizon.net (Patches)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:44:34 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>

What was the purpose of the original question?  Did the original poster want
people not to post in both places?  Did the original poster want this list
to die and everyone migrate to FB? 

FWIW, I am on both FB and here.  I actually forgot about the FB group.  I
find a lot of value in this email list and it would be a loss if it went
away.  FB is so bad about not showing you everything or showing you things
out of order.  The email list is more complete.

YIS,
Patches



From tmcd at panix.com  Sun Nov 23 13:02:07 2014
From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:02:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>

To reply to an earlier comment: people by now had better be used to
check the To, CC, and BCC recipients on all outgoing mail.  Do so many
people really not know about Reply All and editing out the people who
shouldn't get it?  (E.g., replying to a message to the list and it
says to patches023 at verizon.net and SCA-Dance ... but since patches023
POSTED to the list, you can take that name off.)

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014, Patches <patches023 at verizon.net> wrote:
> FB is so bad about not showing you everything or showing you things
> out of order.  The email list is more complete.
...
> Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance

The list archives messages and allows them to be searched.  I know
nothing about Facebook: what are its facilities?

Danet Lincoln
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

From ianthe at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 13:10:46 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:10:46 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
Message-ID: <CAHbX47k78JFFKrsUwXGcWV=pHndmU24Y86Pz4DLzb1me4o+Luw@mail.gmail.com>

Not really. 2 years ago I replied just to you about KWDS and didn't realize
that I had just responded to you until a week later, and I reposted. That's
when I realized it defaulted to reply to sender.

And I have a computer science degree.
But this is email, it shouldn't require a degree or different habits
depending on which mailing list you're replying on.

But Greg is probably right, we're just re-arranging deck chairs on the
titanic.

Lowrie.


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> To reply to an earlier comment: people by now had better be used to
> check the To, CC, and BCC recipients on all outgoing mail.  Do so many
> people really not know about Reply All and editing out the people who
> shouldn't get it?  (E.g., replying to a message to the list and it
> says to patches023 at verizon.net and SCA-Dance ... but since patches023
> POSTED to the list, you can take that name off.)
>
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014, Patches <patches023 at verizon.net> wrote:
> > FB is so bad about not showing you everything or showing you things
> > out of order.  The email list is more complete.
> ...
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
>
> The list archives messages and allows them to be searched.  I know
> nothing about Facebook: what are its facilities?
>
> Danet Lincoln
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>



-- 
http://nadinestudio.com

From myfanwy at pug.net  Sun Nov 23 14:02:59 2014
From: myfanwy at pug.net (myfanwy at pug.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:02:59 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHbX47k78JFFKrsUwXGcWV=pHndmU24Y86Pz4DLzb1me4o+Luw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
	<CAHbX47k78JFFKrsUwXGcWV=pHndmU24Y86Pz4DLzb1me4o+Luw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44BD579F-E68E-4B5E-B052-DA6D0EF84033@pug.net>

> 
> But Greg is probably right, we're just re-arranging deck chairs on the
> titanic.

*THIS*

I think Lowrie hits the nail on the head.  Mailing lists are dying and Facebook is taking over.  Just like printed newsletters died and mailing lists took over.  These things happen.  Wether or not you consider it an evolution or a devolution is a matter of preference.

Myfanwy


From dani at pobox.com  Sun Nov 23 14:09:20 2014
From: dani at pobox.com (Dani Zweig)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:09:20 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <44BD579F-E68E-4B5E-B052-DA6D0EF84033@pug.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
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	<CAHbX47k78JFFKrsUwXGcWV=pHndmU24Y86Pz4DLzb1me4o+Luw@mail.gmail.com>
	<44BD579F-E68E-4B5E-B052-DA6D0EF84033@pug.net>
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Some people on this list do not use Facebook.  All people on this list get
email, though some find it inconvenient.  Mailing lists may be in decline,
but it is premature to switch from a list some some people find annoying to
one that is unavailable to others.

- Dani

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:02 PM, <myfanwy at pug.net> wrote:

> >
> > But Greg is probably right, we're just re-arranging deck chairs on the
> > titanic.
>
> *THIS*
>
> I think Lowrie hits the nail on the head.  Mailing lists are dying and
> Facebook is taking over.  Just like printed newsletters died and mailing
> lists took over.  These things happen.  Wether or not you consider it an
> evolution or a devolution is a matter of preference.
>
> Myfanwy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>

From jducoeur at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 14:29:55 2014
From: jducoeur at gmail.com (Justin du coeur)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:29:55 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
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On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> Do so many
> people really not know about Reply All and editing out the people who
> shouldn't get it?


The issue has little to do with "know about"; it has everything to do with
default behavior.  People typically go with defaults most of the time;
that's what defaults are *for*.  Therefore, what you choose as a default
determines much of the behavior of an environment, and the decision should
always be made deliberately and with care.  Choosing "send to originator"
instead of "send to list" as the default is a *choice* to favor lower
volume and less conversation.  It is not an unreasonable choice, but it
absolutely a deliberate decision with consequences.

Seriously -- this is UX 101...

-- Justin
Who spends a non-trivial amount of his professional time thinking about
defaults

From xcvii at alum.mit.edu  Sun Nov 23 21:30:55 2014
From: xcvii at alum.mit.edu (Troy Daniels)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:30:55 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <546FD862.50209@earthlink.net>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Steven Bush <sbbush at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I am not on Facebook at all.
>

I'm also not on Facebook at all.  Is there a Facebook group for people who
aren't on Facebook?

Udalrich


>
> Etienne
>
> On 11/21/2014 3:51 PM, Charlene C wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> > the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> > are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >
> > Perronnelle
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > ________________________________________________________________
> >
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>

From lindahl at pbm.com  Sun Nov 23 22:55:53 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:55:53 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CALSS3zO-_Lgky+YZXR=nh6Nxwc5+Mqg61RWFQT1WTNkk7N-w4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<546FD862.50209@earthlink.net>
	<CALSS3zO-_Lgky+YZXR=nh6Nxwc5+Mqg61RWFQT1WTNkk7N-w4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 09:30:55PM -0500, Troy Daniels wrote:

> I'm also not on Facebook at all.  Is there a Facebook group for people who
> aren't on Facebook?

No, you're screwed.

Mind you, I have seen some communities that have decided that they'll
keep discussion on a mailing list, and only send announcements to
Facebook.

And others where there is a person who posts mailing list-only things
to FB and vice-versa, so that no one misses what's going on.

Given the large number of people who say they aren't going to start
using FB just for SCA dance discussion, maybe getting volunteers for
cross-posting would be very valuable for our community?

-- Gregory



From charlene281 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 00:32:25 2014
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:32:25 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
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On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Patches <patches023 at verizon.net> wrote:
> What was the purpose of the original question?  Did the original poster want
> people not to post in both places?  Did the original poster want this list
> to die and everyone migrate to FB?
>

Nowhere in the original post did I suggest the list should die. As I
said, I've been pondering the best place to post questions.

Perronnelle

From charlene281 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 00:39:04 2014
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:39:04 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411231159100.953@panix2.panix.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
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On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> To reply to an earlier comment: people by now had better be used to
> check the To, CC, and BCC recipients on all outgoing mail.  Do so many
> people really not know about Reply All and editing out the people who
> shouldn't get it?  (E.g., replying to a message to the list and it
> says to patches023 at verizon.net and SCA-Dance ... but since patches023
> POSTED to the list, you can take that name off.)

The problem for me is every other list I'm on (which is about a dozen)
replies back to the list when you click "Reply." There's little enough
traffic here that I forget it's different. I click "Reply", look at
the To:, notice it's wrong, say "oh, bother," delete, go back to the
original message, click "Reply-All." Because so many people
accidentally hit reply-all, some mailers make it a bother to get to
that option (Gmail included).

Perronnelle

From patches023 at verizon.net  Mon Nov 17 22:01:15 2014
From: patches023 at verizon.net (Patches)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:01:15 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Atlantia Dance Event: Storvik's Song and Dance
In-Reply-To: <005b01d002db$1196e720$34c4b560$@verizon.net>
References: <005b01d002db$1196e720$34c4b560$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <006b01d002db$ebfaf410$c3f0dc30$@verizon.net>

Greetings,

 

The Barony of Storvik is holding a day of dance and entertainment on January
24, 2015, in Beltsville, MD.  The site is a hotel, which has a ballroom (for
the dancing) and an auditorium. We hope to see some of you here.  In order
to have the maximum time for the ball and performances, we will be having a
potluck feast.  Please bring a dish to share.  Below is information about
the dancing and the performances.  We have a Facebook event here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1613985845495030/?ref_dashboard_filter=calen
dar  We have a basic website here:
acorn.atlantia.sca.org/event_flyer.php?event_id=f95e67bd.  We should have a
more detailed website soon.  The cost is $10 for members/$15 for nonmembers.

 

Dancing

We will have dance events all day including dance classes during the day and
a ball in the evening.  We will have an open band for the ball and some of
the dance instructors would welcome live music for the classes.  If you wish
to teach a class, please send me (Patches at patches023 at Verizon dot net)
the following information:

 

Name: Your name 
Point of Contact: Name and email address 
Level of Difficulty of the class: beginner (no experience necessary),
intermediate (should be at least familiar with basic steps), advanced
(should know very well the steps)

Region/Time period: English Country, 15th Century Italian, 16th Century
Italian, Inns of the Court, etc.
Title of your class: Can be a working title

Description of your class: What you intend to do. This is to help me
schedule things so we don't get a half dozen of the same thing all
back-to-back.
Time required: How long it takes to do your thing, including any set-up and
break-down.
Music needs/requests: Would you like to see if we can find live musicians
for your class (we would need a list of the dances you will be teaching)? We
have a speaker that can play iPhone 5, iPhone 4 and below, iPod, but no
non-Apple players.  We can also bring a cd player, if you are old school.

 

Performances

There's a narrow little elevated stage, and some additional space in front
of the stage on the ground.  We intend to fill the stage with performances
all day long. Choirs, ensembles, commedia troupes, individual performers;
music, miming, poetry, theater, storytelling - anything goes! (...almost
anything. I'm fairly certain the hotel won't like fire dancers.) This is a
great opportunity to do longer-form work, or to assemble a compelling
program of your short pieces.  Contact Teleri the Well-Prepared at sca_bard
AT yahoo dot com. This is what she needs from those interested:

Name: Name of the group or individual performing
Point of Contact: Name and email address of coordinator for groups; contact
info for individuals
Title of your program/performance: Can be a working title. 
Description of your program/performance: What you intend to do. This is to
help me schedule things so we don't get a half dozen of the same thing all
back-to-back.
Time required: How long it takes to do your thing, including any set-up and
break-down.
Other requirements: e.g., an electrical outlet for an amp. I can't guarantee
that I can meet them, but I will see what I can do.

Our preference is for 15- and 30-minute programs, to allow many people and
groups to take the stage. However, if your act cannot be done in less than
an hour, let's talk. We don't want to freeze out, say, the theater folks
with an arbitrary time limit.

Please re-distribute!

In service,
Patches 

Storvik Song and Dance Autocrat

 

Teleri the Well-Prepared
Storvik Song and Dance Deputy Autocrat for Performance

 

 


From johnbobmead at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 17:15:55 2014
From: johnbobmead at gmail.com (John Mead)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:15:55 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <84F3BDD5-210D-47D4-AD59-58413BF36299@gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<84F3BDD5-210D-47D4-AD59-58413BF36299@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEtMP78jmVrN9we2y7VzY9n8FGb43mx5J9v_O9YGpjXXsjN0NA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not on the Facebook group.

Ian Jameson

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm on the group but I set notifications to off. So I don't see what's
> going on there.
>
> Too many fb groups.
>
> Lowrie
> Sent from my iPhone
> http://nadinestudio.com
>
> > On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> > the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> > are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> >
> > Perronnelle
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is
> listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > ________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________
> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
> in the To line of any response.
>
> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
>
> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> ________________________________________________________________
>

From ianthe at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 15:32:21 2014
From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:32:21 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHbX47kF1vn5Z62XM+gReYmDRv90VGUNHwNDA5CCj4Fpn9VM9g@mail.gmail.com>

That may have been a concern in the past but this email list is pretty
dead. Probably partly because it discourages conversations. Is that our
goal?

Flip, can you respond please?

Lowrie

On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I, and others, have tried in the past to persuade Flip to change the
> settings on this list, but he really seems to believe that making it hard
> to post is better than allowing the tiniest chance of spam getting through.
>
> --Urraca
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ianthe at gmail.com');>>
> *To:* "sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');>" <
> sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
>
> Hopefully the admin still reads the messages on the list :-P
>
> Lowrie.
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Alaric MacConnal <alaric at pobox.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alaric at pobox.com');>> wrote:
>
> > Here's the link to the webpage that has the admin contact info:
> >
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> >
> > Alaric
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nadine <ianthe at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ianthe at gmail.com');>> wrote:
> > > Can the admin of this group change the setting to reply to list by
> > default?
> > >
> > > Who is the admin?
> > >
> > > Lowrie
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > http://nadinestudio.com
> > >
> > >> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Marianne Perdomo <
> > marianne at historiaviva.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marianne at historiaviva.org');>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'm also in the Facebook group, but agree it works less than
> optimally.
> > >> I also find this groups' settings confusing. I fear we miss on a lot
> > >> because of them.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, on the Facebook group someone mentioned an online
> > concordance
> > >> with steps. I do not know of such a website and have not found it with
> > >> those words. Does anyone have a link handy?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Marianne / Leonor
> > >>
> > >> 2014-11-22 14:37 GMT+00:00 Donna <lgp477 at up.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lgp477 at up.net');>>:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm on FB intermittently, but as I'm in the Midwestern hinterlands,
> > >>> most events are too far away for me to travel to, anyway...so no
> > >>> worries.
> > >>> thanks,
> > >>> Freydis
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 11/21/14, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tmcd at panix.com');>> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','charlene281 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> > >>>>> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure
> there
> > >>>>> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (1) *raises hand*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (2) "or"?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Danyell de Lincoln, who is positively medieval when it comes to all
> > >>>> this modern workstuff
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tmcd at panix.com');>
> > >>>> ________________________________________________________________
> > >>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');> is
> > >>> listed
> > >>>> in the To line of any response.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org');>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > >>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > >>>> ________________________________________________________________
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
> > >>> worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
> > >>> ________________________________________________________________
> > >>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');> is
> > listed
> > >>> in the To line of any response.
> > >>>
> > >>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org');>
> > >>>
> > >>> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > >>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > >>> ________________________________________________________________
> > >>>
> > >> ________________________________________________________________
> > >> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');> is
> > listed
> > >> in the To line of any response.
> > >>
> > >> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org');>
> > >>
> > >> Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > >> ________________________________________________________________
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');> is
> > listed
> > > in the To line of any response.
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org');>
> > >
> > > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance at sca-dance.org');> is listed
> > in the To line of any response.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org');>
> >
> > Posting guidlines on the list info page:
>
>
>
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From lanhamlaw at att.net  Sun Nov 23 15:05:45 2014
From: lanhamlaw at att.net (Stephen Kiefert)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:05:45 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook
Message-ID: <1416773145.98707.YahooMailNeo@web181501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

To get back to the original question, it appears a number of people either do not use or do not like Facebook.  Therefore, we should keep this mailing list alive and make the necessary tweaks.  Maybe a regular reminder on usage tips.  As to where to post, the answer seems to be both.

 
Stefan of Cambion

From mhultin at mymts.net  Sun Nov 23 17:47:23 2014
From: mhultin at mymts.net (Monica Hultin)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:47:23 -0600
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com><1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com><20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net><CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU174-DS70911999F2055AB634B1BBA750@phx.gbl>

I'm on both.

I find if you reply all, both the sender and the sca-dance pops up and one 
can choose.

At the moment, I think this message has only one reponse on it, (I randomly 
picked one from Patches).  Please let me know it more show up.

I'm happy to keep both as facebook has a bad habit of not always forwarding 
posting, or at least no in a timely fashion.

Monica

-----Original Message----- 
From: Patches
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:44 AM
To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?

What was the purpose of the original question?  Did the original poster want
people not to post in both places?  Did the original poster want this list
to die and everyone migrate to FB?

FWIW, I am on both FB and here.  I actually forgot about the FB group.  I
find a lot of value in this email list and it would be a loss if it went
away.  FB is so bad about not showing you everything or showing you things
out of order.  The email list is more complete.

YIS,
Patches


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From gsmwilder at aol.com  Mon Nov 24 04:38:56 2014
From: gsmwilder at aol.com (Maureen Wilder)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 04:38:56 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <BLU174-DS70911999F2055AB634B1BBA750@phx.gbl>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
	<BLU174-DS70911999F2055AB634B1BBA750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48FC8E6E-0891-487F-8413-BEAEB7652DC0@aol.com>

This is my very first attempt to post something to this list, and I'm piggybacking on your thread to do it. 

I've been unable to use this list as a resource because I still don't know how to start a new discussion, even though I've read the "directions" many times; guess I need my hand held ;-) 


Maureen/Geneva

> On Nov 23, 2014, at 5:47 PM, "Monica Hultin" <mhultin at mymts.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm on both.
> 
> I find if you reply all, both the sender and the sca-dance pops up and one 
> can choose.
> 
> At the moment, I think this message has only one reponse on it, (I randomly 
> picked one from Patches).  Please let me know it more show up.
> 
> I'm happy to keep both as facebook has a bad habit of not always forwarding 
> posting, or at least no in a timely fashion.
> 
> Monica
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Patches
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:44 AM
> To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
> 
> What was the purpose of the original question?  Did the original poster want
> people not to post in both places?  Did the original poster want this list
> to die and everyone migrate to FB?
> 
> FWIW, I am on both FB and here.  I actually forgot about the FB group.  I
> find a lot of value in this email list and it would be a loss if it went
> away.  FB is so bad about not showing you everything or showing you things
> out of order.  The email list is more complete.
> 
> YIS,
> Patches
> 
> 
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From jen_kennedy at warpmail.net  Mon Nov 24 08:07:55 2014
From: jen_kennedy at warpmail.net (Jen Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 08:07:55 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1416834475.2113958.194697673.4E8E29D4@webmail.messagingengine.com>

I'm not on the Facebook group, though I do have a Facebook account.


On Fri, Nov 21, 2014, at 16:51, Charlene C wrote:
> Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
> the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
> are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.
> 
> Perronnelle
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From mattender at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 08:14:22 2014
From: mattender at gmail.com (Matthew Ender)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 08:14:22 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <BLU174-DS70911999F2055AB634B1BBA750@phx.gbl>
References: <CAHbX47=w2ztm14BU0kK7FwdatKU2yEgcoeNhHARTk1uAKmrkdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1764715469.2578213.1416686747296.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1411230352540.29139@zeus.jtan.com>
	<20141123052059.GA28692@bx9.net>
	<CABPFnHAqiOQOmDdf_Yk9=XMM=7wdjXZx14PXtL7KCo5Vis=cDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401d00745$2599aaf0$70cd00d0$@verizon.net>
	<BLU174-DS70911999F2055AB634B1BBA750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABPFnHAw3c_OzQ8MC9VMefEEiQQrDpiHyB0F3LX+6oYYEHUeHw@mail.gmail.com>

I concur with the general sentiment that reply-to-list seems like it would
suit this list better than reply-to-sender, and would encourage the list
administration to consider it.

If we do need to think about forwarding, I don't think we'd need volunteers
for forwarding each msg, if there is someone who knows the FB API well
enough to make some code to do it.  A thought.

-- Matt/Orlando

From peregrine.lp at juno.com  Mon Nov 24 10:13:49 2014
From: peregrine.lp at juno.com (peregrine.lp at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:13:49 GMT
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
Message-ID: <20141124.101349.8505.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>

I am not on Facebook at all. 

Peregrine
Barony of Thescorre

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Charlene C <charlene281 at gmail.com>
To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Are you on Facebook?
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:51:15 -0600

Out of curiosity, how many people on the email list are not also on
the Facebook group? I know of at least one person and I'm sure there
are others. I always waffle where to post: here or there.

Perronnelle
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From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 24 12:19:09 2014
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:19:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>
References: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>
Message-ID: <2015267207.180477.1416849549956.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10085.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Greg: on Facebook groups that cross-post to a mailing list, how do they deal with the issue of posting people's comments to another venue? Do they ask permission of each individual to cross-post their comments, or do they just announce that all posts will be posted elsewhere? Given that a lot of the posts on the Facebook group are by people who are not on this mailing list, I would worry that someone might object to their comments being forwarded without their permission.
--Urraca
      From: Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com>
 To: Troy Daniels <xcvii at alum.mit.edu> 
Cc: sca-dance <sca-dance at sca-dance.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
   
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 09:30:55PM -0500, Troy Daniels wrote:

> I'm also not on Facebook at all.? Is there a Facebook group for people who
> aren't on Facebook?

No, you're screwed.

Mind you, I have seen some communities that have decided that they'll
keep discussion on a mailing list, and only send announcements to
Facebook.

And others where there is a person who posts mailing list-only things
to FB and vice-versa, so that no one misses what's going on.

Given the large number of people who say they aren't going to start
using FB just for SCA dance discussion, maybe getting volunteers for
cross-posting would be very valuable for our community?

-- Gregory




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From cctimar at member.ams.org  Mon Nov 24 12:28:36 2014
From: cctimar at member.ams.org (C. Timar)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 12:28:36 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <20141124.101349.8505.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20141124.101349.8505.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAJghya-9UQHwbOMMkHm3TwVFeodKgaP3C5hqAgbkj5Agu7z-sg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

The Reply-to seems to have been changed, Sunday night - Monday morning.
Thank you, Flip.

When you reply to messages, please think.  (I would say, "... about to whom
to send the reply," but I have been using mailing lists for thirty years,
and I have found that thought is just generally a mailing list virtue.)

I am not in favour of changing the list platform to whatever is fashionable
today.  I prefer to maintain a stable location as long as possible.

    -- Charles, the clerk, Ealdormere
       cctimar at member.ams.org

From lindahl at pbm.com  Mon Nov 24 12:32:38 2014
From: lindahl at pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:32:38 -0800
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <2015267207.180477.1416849549956.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10085.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>
	<2015267207.180477.1416849549956.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10085.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20141124173238.GA28698@bx9.net>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 05:19:09PM +0000, Mary Railing wrote:

> Greg: on Facebook groups that cross-post to a mailing list, how do
> they deal with the issue of posting people's comments to another
> venue? Do they ask permission of each individual to cross-post their
> comments, or do they just announce that all posts will be posted
> elsewhere? Given that a lot of the posts on the Facebook group are
> by people who are not on this mailing list, I would worry that
> someone might object to their comments being forwarded without their
> permission.

You're right, I meant to suggest that the initial posting and not
subsequent comments get forwarded... and looking back, I see that I
wasn't clear. And, of course, it would have to be announced. Asking for
permission each time would probably annoy folks.

Even only cross-posting initial postings and not comments might gather
objections from a few people. The FB group is public, but it's public
in a different way from the mailing list.

-- Gregory


From rosina at pathcom.com  Mon Nov 24 17:15:04 2014
From: rosina at pathcom.com (rosina at pathcom.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:15:04 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHUFDpNB7SG+HtXrrV8HTwS7YiUk+smee0TbqtgPjmAAY2+5Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141124171504.nkoxxgv474kgcoos@easymail.pathcom.com>

I am not on the Facebook group. I am officially "on Facebook", but a 
short while after I joined, Facebook made some improvements, which have 
caused my browser to crash whenever I tried to get on it since. I 
appreciate the mailing list, as it is controlled by someone who doesn't 
think it needs to be fancy. I'm sorry to hear that I'm missing out on 
interesting conversations, as people prefer a more ornamented way of 
conversing.

Rosina


From tmcd at panix.com  Mon Nov 24 22:26:34 2014
From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:26:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <20141124173238.GA28698@bx9.net>
References: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>
	<2015267207.180477.1416849549956.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10085.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<20141124173238.GA28698@bx9.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411242120450.28119@panix3.panix.com>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com> wrote:
> You're right, I meant to suggest that the initial posting and not
> subsequent comments get forwarded... and looking back, I see that I
> wasn't clear. And, of course, it would have to be announced. Asking for
> permission each time would probably annoy folks.
>
> Even only cross-posting initial postings and not comments might gather
> objections from a few people. The FB group is public, but it's public
> in a different way from the mailing list.

I see no particular value in having only an initial posting be
gatewayed.  Usually, most of the meat is in the body of the replies
discussing the issue.  That sort of gatewaying would be useful only
for announcements of events and such, which are rare.

Back when Usenet was the big sharing mechanism, there were plenty of
Usenet<->mailing list gateways.  It was announced, but no permission
was asked and I never heard of any objections.  Such mailing lists
were public, Usenet is public, it was simply a different propagation
mechanism.

Far from objecting to full gatewaying, I think it would be a fine
thing.  But I don't have the knowledge to do it, and not really the
gumption either.

Daniel Lindocollinum
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

From marianne at historiaviva.org  Tue Nov 25 03:52:04 2014
From: marianne at historiaviva.org (Marianne Perdomo)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:52:04 +0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Are you on Facebook?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1411242120450.28119@panix3.panix.com>
References: <20141124035553.GA28567@bx9.net>
	<2015267207.180477.1416849549956.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10085.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<20141124173238.GA28698@bx9.net>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1411242120450.28119@panix3.panix.com>
Message-ID: <CAMMYS2H0T-sJ+Mbu6ZrvJP6exU2hCu7q7xgsAZr559sAo-1cxA@mail.gmail.com>

Mary and Greg, thank you for clarifying the concordance issue. I do indeed
know those very useful websites already. Somehow I got the impression it
was more like Katherine's step concordance but by Greg. :)

Now that the reply-to has been changed let's see if it makes a difference.
A bit more dance traffic would be nice :)

Cheers,



Marianne / Leonor

2014-11-25 3:26 GMT+00:00 Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>:

> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Greg Lindahl <lindahl at pbm.com> wrote:
> > You're right, I meant to suggest that the initial posting and not
> > subsequent comments get forwarded... and looking back, I see that I
> > wasn't clear. And, of course, it would have to be announced. Asking for
> > permission each time would probably annoy folks.
> >
> > Even only cross-posting initial postings and not comments might gather
> > objections from a few people. The FB group is public, but it's public
> > in a different way from the mailing list.
>
> I see no particular value in having only an initial posting be
> gatewayed.  Usually, most of the meat is in the body of the replies
> discussing the issue.  That sort of gatewaying would be useful only
> for announcements of events and such, which are rare.
>
> Back when Usenet was the big sharing mechanism, there were plenty of
> Usenet<->mailing list gateways.  It was announced, but no permission
> was asked and I never heard of any objections.  Such mailing lists
> were public, Usenet is public, it was simply a different propagation
> mechanism.
>
> Far from objecting to full gatewaying, I think it would be a fine
> thing.  But I don't have the knowledge to do it, and not really the
> gumption either.
>
> Daniel Lindocollinum
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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From judithsca at aol.com  Wed Nov 26 02:31:58 2014
From: judithsca at aol.com (Rachel/Judith)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 02:31:58 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] SCA-Dance: WANTED: Teachers for KWDS 2015 in Germany
Message-ID: <8D1D762322715C8-1570-120CA@webmail-va140.sysops.aol.com>


Salvete!
    I have noticed that some of my posts have not made it through to list, so I thought I would re-post.
    We have many exciting activities and balls planned for Known World Dance, such as a recreation of a ball from Ulm in 1503, a masque and costumed ball themed "Lover of Legend and History", a raucous tavern dance complete with gambling tables and locally brewed German beer from a 500 year-old brewery, just to name a few.
    What we currently lack are teachers. We need our talented, knowledgeable dancers to come out and share their research, reconstructions, ideas and techniques. That means YOU! This is a chance to exchange ideas with a truly international group of attendees from over 10 countries, a chance that may not arise again for a very long time!
    Please visit www.kwds.org for more information, or contact me directly.

Yours,
Judith de Northumbria, Event Steward for KWDS 2015, inter alia