From tmcd at panix.com Sun Feb 2 21:25:02 2014 From: tmcd at panix.com (tmcd at panix.com) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:25:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Most evul thing EVAR Message-ID: At Candlemas yesterday, we were reorienting / discussing how to arrange the line for Trenchmore so it would fit. In the category "Most evul thing EVAR", I'd like to nominate the guy who said "Make it circular!". Especially because I was man 1. If we got to the end of eternity and finished the under-and-over, then I'd have to reel until the next time that time ended. Though, thinking about it now, the casting would have been half the work: "cast to the bottom of the set and join" == "turn around". Dankyn de Lyncoln -- Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com From dgrees at theworld.com Tue Feb 4 12:38:47 2014 From: dgrees at theworld.com (Deirdre G Rees) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:38:47 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Dancing at non-dance events In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Musicians and Music lovers: 1. I agree with Matilda..usually bring something to snack on and put the music first 2. hope to see you soon In service, Deirdre Deirdre M. Good Rees / dgrees at theworld.com 5 Francis Wyman Rd Burlington, MA 0l803 / phone 781-272-6378 "cliccare sul mouse" On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Ginger Fitzsimmons wrote: > On Jan 21, 2014, Tim McDaniel wrote: > >> At Candlemas, we intersperse the feast and the dancing. Three >> courses, three sets. Dance still gives way, but it tends to be that >> we can't go on to the 5th and last dance of the set because the >> kitchen is ready to serve the crottled greeps now. > > Speaking for my local musicians, at least half of them hate this format. We don't get fed beforehand, we're smack against cleanup if we're to be fed afterwards, and it is not always easy to grab food and clean up hands and mouths before taking up instruments again, repeatedly. For myself, I tend to assume that I'm going to get to snack at best and take care of my own food needs. Fortunately, we don't get asked to do this often so I don't have to listen to griping about it much. I can see its appeal to dancers and feasters, though. > > -Matilda > current Captain of the Waytes of Carolingia > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > From lafauvelle at gmail.com Tue Feb 4 13:21:12 2014 From: lafauvelle at gmail.com (Margretha La Fauvelle) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:21:12 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Dancing at non-dance events In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If this format is decided well in advance, the musicians could arrange with the server coordinator that a table is set behind the pit for feast to be served for the amount of feast-paying people that will be playing. If there are enough musicians, and especially if there are breaks between playing, people can take turns between playing and eating. I have been treated this way while providing background feast music with a group of musicians (which makes for even more playing and less eating!) and it worked out quite well, and I managed not to blow cheese into my recorders. Cheers, Margretha On 4 February 2014 12:38, Deirdre G Rees wrote: > Dear Musicians and Music lovers: > 1. I agree with Matilda..usually bring something to snack on and put the > music first > 2. hope to see you soon > In service, Deirdre > > Deirdre M. Good Rees / dgrees at theworld.com > 5 Francis Wyman Rd > Burlington, MA 0l803 / phone 781-272-6378 > "cliccare sul mouse" > > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Ginger Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > On Jan 21, 2014, Tim McDaniel wrote: > > > >> At Candlemas, we intersperse the feast and the dancing. Three > >> courses, three sets. Dance still gives way, but it tends to be that > >> we can't go on to the 5th and last dance of the set because the > >> kitchen is ready to serve the crottled greeps now. > > > > Speaking for my local musicians, at least half of them hate this format. > We don't get fed beforehand, we're smack against cleanup if we're to be fed > afterwards, and it is not always easy to grab food and clean up hands and > mouths before taking up instruments again, repeatedly. For myself, I tend > to assume that I'm going to get to snack at best and take care of my own > food needs. Fortunately, we don't get asked to do this often so I don't > have to listen to griping about it much. I can see its appeal to dancers > and feasters, though. > > > > -Matilda > > current Captain of the Waytes of Carolingia > > ________________________________________________________________ > > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is > listed > > in the To line of any response. > > > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > -- Nothing stays hidden under the sun. Lady Margretha La Fauvelle mka Margarita Rankin \ | / --( )-- / | \ From tmcd at panix.com Tue Feb 4 15:34:25 2014 From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 14:34:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Dancing at non-dance events In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I askeda musician at Bryn Gwlad Candlemas about playing during feast. She said she hadn't heard any complaints and had no problem with eating then playing then eating then ... There is a musician pit in one corner of the hall. The closest tables are reserved for musicians, and the one next closest for the dance guild (extra musicians would get priority there). The musicians has as much time as anyone else to eat. Except this year there was a bit of disorganization -- we need to tell the servers to serve high table first, then musicians, then dancers. Danielis de Lindicolino -- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com From carolanneperry at gmail.com Fri Feb 14 15:02:14 2014 From: carolanneperry at gmail.com (Carol Perry Lagemann) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:02:14 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Teaching at St. Cecilia at the Tower (May 9-10) Message-ID: Dear Potential Teacher, St. Cecilia at the Tower III is coming up (on May 9-10 in the Barony of Cynnabar), and we're looking for teachers. We hope you will be interested in teaching a class. Because we want to offer the most helpful and interesting classes possible, we conducted a survey of potential classgoers, asking what classes they would most like to take at St. Cecilia. Based on the survey results, we would most like to offer classes on the following topics: - Articulation and/or phrasing (practical approach) - Differences between pre-1650 music and contemporary music, and how to approach them - Ear training - European music before 1200 - European music between 1200 and 1450 - Guided music-making time - Helpful tips for arrangers or transcribers - History and/or influence of any specific group of performers or composers or theorists - Improvisation for pitched instruments or voice - In-depth look at some specific rhythmic (or harmonic or melodic or expressive) concept or school of musical thought - Introduction to pre-1650 thought about rhythm (or harmony or melody or expression) - Music for court and other SCA ceremonies - Northern European music before 1650 - Period musical notation for beginners - Pre-1650 understanding of acoustics - Selecting music to arrange or study Classes on these topics will be prioritized, but we are interested in hearing proposals for any class about medieval or Renaissance music (Western or non-Western) that you would like to teach. Classes will be 50 minutes long, and we will work with you to make sure you have the equipment you need. If you think you might want to teach at St. Cecilia, please respond to this email with the following information: - What are your SCA name and title? - What classes are you able to teach? If you choose from the list above, it would be most helpful if you would give specifics about your class rather than copying and pasting the general description we gave. Please also list any other classes you can teach. - What classes would you enjoy teaching the most? We would like to have plenty of time to create the schedule and work with you to prepare your classes, so please respond to this email by March 15. Thank you very much for your attention. St. Cecilia is a class-focused event, and it absolutely would not exist without plenty of people who are willing to share their time and energy to teach classes. Yours in service, Kasha Alekseeva Co-Autocrat, St. Cecilia at the Tower From ianthe at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 11:37:22 2014 From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:37:22 -0600 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Just sharing an email I got from youtube below. I just thought this was really silly of the records company when only good exposure can come out of a phone recording of people dancing to your music... as it exposes people to your music and will pay to download it on itunes. Rather then playing the youtube video to dance to it. Lowrie. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: YouTube Date: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:12 AM Subject: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" To: toomanyusername Dear toomanyusername, Your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10 ", may have content that is owned or licensed by HyperionRecordsLimited. As a result, the video has been blocked on YouTube. Visit your Copyright Notice pagefor more details on the policy applied to your video. Sincerely, - The YouTube Team Help center * Email options * Report spam (c)2014 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -- http://nadinestudio.com From sandraunger at verizon.net Wed Feb 5 12:06:56 2014 From: sandraunger at verizon.net (Sandra Unger) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:06:56 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Job - Music Director at Barnard College (Columbia at NYC) - including accompanying dance Message-ID: <001a01cf2294$ad40c100$07c24300$@verizon.net> I thought this musician position might be of interest. careers.barnard.edu The Dance Department at Barnard College, Columbia University in New York City is seeking a full-time Music Director to supervise all music components within the Department. Primary responsibilities include hiring, supervising and scheduling freelance accompanists, accompanying dance classes, and supporting student performances. From mrailing2 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 17 12:39:38 2014 From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1392658778.49773.YahooMailNeo@web121803.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> It is really silly. and it costs them sales, and it hurts Youtube as well, but companies are getting really aggressive about ferreting out uses of their music. I don't know if there is anywhere else that is less harrassed than Youtube to post videos on. --Urraca ________________________________ From: Nadine To: "sca-dance at sca-dance.org" Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" Just sharing an email I got from youtube below. I just thought this was really silly of the records company when only good exposure can come out of a phone recording of people dancing to your music... as it exposes people to your music and will pay to download it on itunes. Rather then playing the youtube video to dance to it. Lowrie. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: YouTube Date: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:12 AM Subject: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" To: toomanyusername ? ? ? ? ? ? Dear toomanyusername, Your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10 ", may have content that is owned or licensed by HyperionRecordsLimited. As a result, the video has been blocked on YouTube. Visit your Copyright Notice pagefor more details on the policy applied to your video. Sincerely, - The YouTube Team ? ? ? ? ? Help center * Email options * Report spam ? ? ? ? (c)2014 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 -- http://nadinestudio.com ________________________________________________________________ To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed in the To line of any response. To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance ________________________________________________________________ From charlene281 at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 14:32:53 2014 From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:32:53 -0600 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The videos are scanned by software that identifies the music or video and these notices are automatically sent out. That's lead to some really silly instances like an artist getting a notice about his own stuff or a news program getting a notice because of an embedded clip they commented on (sometimes it's even the same network owning both shows), etc. --Perronnelle From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 14:43:02 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:43:02 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: <1392658778.49773.YahooMailNeo@web121803.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> <1392658778.49773.YahooMailNeo@web121803.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've been concerned about the copyrighted nature of music as I've posted some of my recent recordings on youtube. I've cited the music source in the description of the video, hoping that would stave off this sort of issue. But I'm not certain if there is a better way, or any way to achieve it, other than having friends re-record the music. (I haven't taken the time yet to try to learn all the aspects of copyright from youtube, in case anyone has a quick answer for me) :) Darius On 17 February 2014 12:39, Mary Railing wrote: > It is really silly. and it costs them sales, and it hurts Youtube as well, > but companies are getting really aggressive about ferreting out uses of > their music. I don't know if there is anywhere else that is less harrassed > than Youtube to post videos on. > > --Urraca > > > ________________________________ > From: Nadine > To: "sca-dance at sca-dance.org" > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:37 AM > Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde > Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" > > > Just sharing an email I got from youtube below. > > I just thought this was really silly of the records company when only good > exposure can come out of a phone recording of people dancing to your > music... as it exposes people to your music and will pay to download it on > itunes. Rather then playing the youtube video to dance to it. > > Lowrie. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: YouTube > Date: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:12 AM > Subject: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA > knowne world dance symposium 10" > To: toomanyusername > > > Dear toomanyusername, > > Your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium > 10 ", may have content that is > owned or licensed by HyperionRecordsLimited. As a result, the video has > been blocked on YouTube. > > Visit your Copyright Notice > pagefor more > details on the policy applied to your video. > > Sincerely, > - The YouTube Team > Help center * Email > options * > Report > spam< > http://www.youtube.com/email_spam?v=1a&c=Lhm17mtO5_mOpbRjuoBiyhb4hcgxIERK-KUbAcP2Y_oBreSzGsHVS6ybYNPB0owJ2vbN5jT9enYtAlhVDnKPnkCf_Pke6nZ5n8t6UiPoBdfX3IgHYp_bU7DAFy_6PNELYu-natrHBaizS_oqIzrGr0EnY40dA0tkNQaolVNZJxpmEbHW3w5UAjJtnj5IBCDY2Vq8HBZfj4HvRv5rOcFCwL4Pp6_DPHQq > > > (c)2014 YouTube, LLC 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066 > > > > -- > http://nadinestudio.com > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > From jducoeur at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 14:46:35 2014 From: jducoeur at gmail.com (Justin du coeur) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:46:35 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yaas. If you really care, it's possible that you could get official permission from the record company to use it, and thereby get it unblocked -- I suspect there's a fair chance that they know nothing about it, and that no human has been in this loop... On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Charlene C wrote: > The videos are scanned by software that identifies the music or video > and these notices are automatically sent out. That's lead to some > really silly instances like an artist getting a notice about his own > stuff or a news program getting a notice because of an embedded clip > they commented on (sometimes it's even the same network owning both > shows), etc. > > --Perronnelle > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 14:53:09 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:53:09 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely not the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio. It might not be as good, but it's something. Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and put it up to my channel I started, as a resource. Margaret Raynsford is willing to do simple recordings for me. Darius https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos From mrailing2 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 17 18:33:46 2014 From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:33:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1392680026.9886.YahooMailNeo@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> If these notices are really being generated by bots, it may not matter if one has permission from the record company. The bot would probably flag it anyway. If you contact Dafydd Arth (M. David Lankford) regarding permission to use Musica Subterranea's recordings, he will give you permission for SCA videos. I don't know if there is a music version of Creative Commons licensing, but I bet there is. --Urraca ________________________________ From: David Learmonth To: "sca-dance at sca-dance.org" Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely not the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio.? It might not be as good, but it's something. Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and put it up to my channel I started, as a resource.? Margaret Raynsford is willing to do simple recordings for me. Darius https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos ________________________________________________________________ To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed in the To line of any response. To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance ________________________________________________________________ From jducoeur at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 19:50:39 2014 From: jducoeur at gmail.com (Justin du coeur) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:50:39 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: <1392680026.9886.YahooMailNeo@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> <1392680026.9886.YahooMailNeo@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Mary Railing wrote: > If these notices are really being generated by bots, it may not matter if > one has permission from the record company. The bot would probably flag it > anyway. Oh, sure -- but in that case there are almost certainly mechanisms to override those flags on a case-by-case basis. (Indeed, it is likely legally necessary for these to be such, if I understand the DMCA correctly...) From ianthe at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 19:55:04 2014 From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:55:04 -0600 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Darius, If you have a musician willing to get it done, that would be awesome. Youtube stripped the music off it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnjSzFkfrg Otherwise we can wait until a dance event where someone does it to live music... Lowrie. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM, David Learmonth < david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote: > Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version > for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely not > the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio. It might not be as good, > but it's something. > > Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and put > it up to my channel I started, as a resource. Margaret Raynsford is > willing to do simple recordings for me. > > Darius > https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > -- http://nadinestudio.com From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 20:05:11 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:05:11 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I'll see if Margaret would have a chance to provide something. Do you happen to have the original file still available? i.e. if we wanted to hear the original audio (for syncing purposes / to get the timing), are you able to send it along / extract it? Or is the only version the one on youtube, and is the audio lost to the ether at this point? Oh, and I've heard that YouTube is a real pain to deal with, such that even if we have the rights, it may be difficult to get such a thing fixed. But who knows. I know that Heather Dale had trouble (and I'm not sure if she ever succeeded) in monetizing her own videos! (Music SHE wrote herself!). She pursued them for weeks or more, along with many people trying to help raise the issue. Darius On 17 February 2014 19:55, Nadine wrote: > Darius, > > If you have a musician willing to get it done, that would be awesome. > > Youtube stripped the music off it: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnjSzFkfrg > > Otherwise we can wait until a dance event where someone does it to live > music... > > Lowrie. > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM, David Learmonth < > david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version >> for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely not >> the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio. It might not be as >> good, >> but it's something. >> >> Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and put >> it up to my channel I started, as a resource. Margaret Raynsford is >> willing to do simple recordings for me. >> >> Darius >> https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos >> ________________________________________________________________ >> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is >> listed >> in the To line of any response. >> >> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org >> >> Posting guidlines on the list info page: >> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance >> ________________________________________________________________ >> > > > > -- > http://nadinestudio.com > From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 20:09:57 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:09:57 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Oh, right, you mentioned that the music was from a recording? Which cd was it again? On 17 February 2014 20:05, David Learmonth wrote: > I'll see if Margaret would have a chance to provide something. > > Do you happen to have the original file still available? i.e. if we > wanted to hear the original audio (for syncing purposes / to get the > timing), are you able to send it along / extract it? Or is the only > version the one on youtube, and is the audio lost to the ether at this > point? > > Oh, and I've heard that YouTube is a real pain to deal with, such that > even if we have the rights, it may be difficult to get such a thing fixed. > But who knows. I know that Heather Dale had trouble (and I'm not sure if > she ever succeeded) in monetizing her own videos! (Music SHE wrote > herself!). She pursued them for weeks or more, along with many people > trying to help raise the issue. > > Darius > > > > On 17 February 2014 19:55, Nadine wrote: > >> Darius, >> >> If you have a musician willing to get it done, that would be awesome. >> >> Youtube stripped the music off it: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnjSzFkfrg >> >> Otherwise we can wait until a dance event where someone does it to live >> music... >> >> Lowrie. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM, David Learmonth < >> david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version >>> for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely not >>> the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio. It might not be as >>> good, >>> but it's something. >>> >>> Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and put >>> it up to my channel I started, as a resource. Margaret Raynsford is >>> willing to do simple recordings for me. >>> >>> Darius >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is >>> listed >>> in the To line of any response. >>> >>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org >>> >>> Posting guidlines on the list info page: >>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://nadinestudio.com >> > > From ianthe at gmail.com Mon Feb 17 20:16:04 2014 From: ianthe at gmail.com (Nadine) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:16:04 -0600 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Fwd: Information about your video "Cascarde Allegrezza d'Amore - SCA knowne world dance symposium 10" In-Reply-To: References: <52ff0556.04042b0a.5af1.ffff8591.GMR@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yep, I have the original iphone video too. It's this record: http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDH55059 Cheers, Lowrie. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:09 PM, David Learmonth < david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, right, you mentioned that the music was from a recording? Which cd > was it again? > > > On 17 February 2014 20:05, David Learmonth wrote: > >> I'll see if Margaret would have a chance to provide something. >> >> Do you happen to have the original file still available? i.e. if we >> wanted to hear the original audio (for syncing purposes / to get the >> timing), are you able to send it along / extract it? Or is the only >> version the one on youtube, and is the audio lost to the ether at this >> point? >> >> Oh, and I've heard that YouTube is a real pain to deal with, such that >> even if we have the rights, it may be difficult to get such a thing fixed. >> But who knows. I know that Heather Dale had trouble (and I'm not sure if >> she ever succeeded) in monetizing her own videos! (Music SHE wrote >> herself!). She pursued them for weeks or more, along with many people >> trying to help raise the issue. >> >> Darius >> >> >> >> On 17 February 2014 19:55, Nadine wrote: >> >>> Darius, >>> >>> If you have a musician willing to get it done, that would be awesome. >>> >>> Youtube stripped the music off it: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnjSzFkfrg >>> >>> Otherwise we can wait until a dance event where someone does it to live >>> music... >>> >>> Lowrie. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM, David Learmonth < >>> david.a.learmonth at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Actually, yeah, you should just get a musician to record a basic version >>>> for you, just the melody line (whatever portion is allow, i.e. likely >>>> not >>>> the arrangement I assume), and overlay the audio. It might not be as >>>> good, >>>> but it's something. >>>> >>>> Or let me know what you decide, and I could perhaps get that done and >>>> put >>>> it up to my channel I started, as a resource. Margaret Raynsford is >>>> willing to do simple recordings for me. >>>> >>>> Darius >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/LordDariustheDancer/videos >>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is >>>> listed >>>> in the To line of any response. >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org >>>> >>>> Posting guidlines on the list info page: >>>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance >>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://nadinestudio.com >>> >> >> > -- http://nadinestudio.com From mrio at umich.edu Wed Feb 19 10:15:12 2014 From: mrio at umich.edu (Monique Rio) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:15:12 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians Message-ID: Hi all, I've resurrected my olde Early Music blog, and have written a post for all aspiring dance musicians. http://blowthyhorn.com/blog/2014/02/18/how_to_be_a_better_dance_musician/ Enjoy! -Jadzia P.S. On an almost entirely unrelated note, what dances need recordings? From mrailing2 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 19 10:34:44 2014 From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 07:34:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dabces that need to be recorded: Alta Regina Fulgente Stella (with the first strain sped up) La Castellana (faster than the usual recording) Fiamma d'Amore --Urraca ________________________________ From: Monique Rio To: sca-dance Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:15 AM Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians P.S. On an almost entirely unrelated note, what dances need recordings? ________________________________________________________________ To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed in the To line of any response. To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance ________________________________________________________________ From charlene281 at gmail.com Wed Feb 19 14:57:04 2014 From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene C) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:57:04 -0600 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > P.S. On an almost entirely unrelated note, what dances need recordings? As I've discovered this week: Contrapasso (in ruota). --Perronnelle From yves.de.fortanier at comcast.net Thu Feb 20 00:19:05 2014 From: yves.de.fortanier at comcast.net (Yves) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 00:19:05 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> I would really like to have slower versions of these three uncommon pieces from Playford. The recordings I use are in parentheses. Boat-Man (The New York Renaissance Band, Country Capers) Kettle Drum (same) The Merry Merry Milk Maids (same) Also would be nice to have... Gathering Peascods (same as above) Goddesses (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) If All the World Were Paper (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) Millisons Jegge (Wandering Hands, Shepheards Holyday) New Boe Peep (Musica Subterranea, Incantare) Newcastle (Bryn Gwlad Music Guild; Tape of Dance, Volume 3) Sellengers Round (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) Cordially, Yves On February 19, 2014 10:34:44 AM EST, Mary Railing wrote: >Dabces that need to be recorded: > >Alta Regina >Fulgente Stella (with the first strain sped up) >La Castellana (faster than the usual recording) >Fiamma d'Amore > >--Urraca > >________________________________ > From: Monique Rio >To: sca-dance >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:15 AM >Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians > > > > >P.S. On an almost entirely unrelated note, what dances need recordings? > From upelluri at gmail.com Thu Feb 20 10:20:44 2014 From: upelluri at gmail.com (Aaron Macks) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:20:44 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> Message-ID: <53061D4C.2010407@gmail.com> Entirely in agreement on Goddesses. I always have to warn people that "yes the dance sounds like there are Smurfs involved" I'd also add Black Almain (the Jouissance recording is fine, but bleh) and Clog Bransle (though I may be the only person who teaches that regularly) GunDormr On 2/20/14 12:19 AM, Yves wrote: > I would really like to have slower versions of these three uncommon pieces from Playford. The recordings I use are in parentheses. > > Boat-Man (The New York Renaissance Band, Country Capers) > Kettle Drum (same) > The Merry Merry Milk Maids (same) > > Also would be nice to have... > > Gathering Peascods (same as above) > Goddesses (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > If All the World Were Paper (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > Millisons Jegge (Wandering Hands, Shepheards Holyday) > New Boe Peep (Musica Subterranea, Incantare) > Newcastle (Bryn Gwlad Music Guild; Tape of Dance, Volume 3) > Sellengers Round (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > > Cordially, > Yves > -- _______________________________________________________ Aaron Macks(aaronm at wiglaf.org) [http://www.wiglaf.org/~aaronm ] My sheep has seven gall bladders, that makes me the King of the Universe! From john.white at drexel.edu Thu Feb 20 10:50:54 2014 From: john.white at drexel.edu (White,John) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:50:54 +0000 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> Message-ID: <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280226@MB4.drexel.edu> > From: Yves > > I would really like to have slower versions of these three uncommon pieces > from Playford. The recordings I use are in parentheses. > > Boat-Man (The New York Renaissance Band, Country Capers) Kettle Drum > (same) The Merry Merry Milk Maids (same) > > Also would be nice to have... > > Gathering Peascods (same as above) > Goddesses (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) If All the World Were > Paper (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) Millisons Jegge (Wandering > Hands, Shepheards Holyday) New Boe Peep (Musica Subterranea, Incantare) > Newcastle (Bryn Gwlad Music Guild; Tape of Dance, Volume 3) Sellengers > Round (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > > Cordially, > Yves > There is a free piece of software that is very easy to use (Audacity - completely freeware) that allows you to slow the tempo of a piece of music without changing its pitch. I've done it many times. To accomplish this takes no special knowledge or fiddling around with cutting and pasting (which I have also done reasonably well with the tool, to turn those pieces of music that are only in medleys, like June Tabor does frequently, into danceable pieces) - just select the whole piece, pull down the menu, select "change tempo", and adjust the slider for slower or even faster (if you don't want your dancers going to sleep during Shepheard's Holiday, for example). While this means that every dance teacher would need to fiddle with the music on their own (since the music is not public domain), it might be a simpler method of getting practice music that making musicians play slowly. I could also list alternate sources for every dance you've listed, but I don't have my iPod with me at work, so I don't know which ones might be slower than the source you have listed. I do know that Shepheards Holyday (the CD, not the dance) was created with the help of some dancers that I know, with the intention of producing danceable music, but there were a few occasions where the musicians got carried away with the tempo a little. What *I'd* like to have, though, are recordings of the handful of 1st edition Playford ECDs for which no recorded music currently exists: The Bath The Country Coll The Gun Have at thy Coat, Old Woman Irish Trot The London Gentlewoman (The Hemp-Dresser) The Saraband Skellemasago The Spanyard Tom Tinker Ten dances out of 105 without music of some sort somewhere ... I'd really like to complete the set. \\Dafydd C From mrailing2 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 20 12:16:00 2014 From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> The Playford dance that I would like to have a new recording of is Lord of Carnarvon's Jig. The figures are very interesting, but the only music I know of is an ancient record album (with nth generation cassette tapes) and a recording of one person playing recorder. --Urraca ________________________________ From: Monique Rio To: sca-dance Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:15 AM Subject: [SCA-Dance]? Article for Dance Musicians P.S. On an almost entirely unrelated note, what dances need recordings? ________________________________________________________________ To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed in the To line of any response. To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance ________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed in the To line of any response. To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org Posting guidlines on the list info page: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance ________________________________________________________________ From john.white at drexel.edu Thu Feb 20 12:25:54 2014 From: john.white at drexel.edu (White,John) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:25:54 +0000 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> > From: Mary Railing > > The Playford dance that I would like to have a new recording of is Lord of > Carnarvon's Jig. The figures are very interesting, but the only music I know of > is an ancient record album (with nth generation cassette tapes) and a > recording of one person playing recorder. > > --Urraca > There is a very usable, if electronic, version available from Iwaz Music (http://www.iwazmusic.com/) on the St Mark's Consort CD On A May Morn. You can even listen to it on the website. And yes, the dance is pretty cool, if repetitive (in that each couple does the same figure, but from different ends of the line). I've been teaching it for years. \\Dafydd C From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Thu Feb 20 14:10:04 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:04 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> Message-ID: Hey Dafydd, I was just curious to see, at least as a temporary measure, if I might find some recordings on Youtube. So I searched a bit, and did find something you might find of interest: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY6dfvc2sgI2D8vBqWA3vULGg7aHe8Pz7 I found this youtube channel when I searched for "Have at thy Coat, Old Woman" http://youtu.be/Iqk_1dT934o And it looks like the songs are freely available: http://www.free-scores.com/Download-PDF-Sheet-Music-tobydarling.htm Of course they may need editing / cutting, so it isn't perfect, but could be useful for a few songs. :) (though may not be period instruments either, but still sounds nicer than midi) Oh, and a few times, when I've really needed a song, I've managed to cheat and Extract the music from a Youtube video, often from a live dance performance video. So that can work sometimes too. Here is the website I've used: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/ Darius On 20 February 2014 12:25, White,John wrote: > > From: Mary Railing > > > > The Playford dance that I would like to have a new recording of is Lord > of > > Carnarvon's Jig. The figures are very interesting, but the only music I > know of > > is an ancient record album (with nth generation cassette tapes) and a > > recording of one person playing recorder. > > > > --Urraca > > > There is a very usable, if electronic, version available from Iwaz Music ( > http://www.iwazmusic.com/) > on the St Mark's Consort CD On A May Morn. You can even listen to it on > the website. > > And yes, the dance is pretty cool, if repetitive (in that each couple does > the same figure, but > from different ends of the line). I've been teaching it for years. > > \\Dafydd C > ________________________________________________________________ > To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed > in the To line of any response. > > To Unsubscribe send mail to: sca-dance-request at sca-dance.org > > Posting guidlines on the list info page: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-dance > ________________________________________________________________ > From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Thu Feb 20 17:29:24 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:29:24 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> Message-ID: As a quick followup to my earlier message, when I subscribed to the musician's youtube channel, he messaged me, and we got to chatting. I let him know about the SCA. He is in the UK. He also asked about music to record, so I mentioned your list Dafydd. So you may get multiple recordings. :) (since our SCAdians are likely to work on them too). I figure more is better. Though I did mention to him about some of the factors that make them less than optimal for our purposes (just because he asked / admitted they might not be perfect for dancing). But I said that, besides being nice to listen to, they still may end up being useful for dancing, especially until we have our own recordings of them. (factors I mentioned were: periodness of arrangement and instruments used. speed of music. repeat structure.) I just wanted to mention this, in case anyone else subscribes and happens to get into discussion. :) Darius On 20 February 2014 14:10, David Learmonth wrote: > Hey Dafydd, > > I was just curious to see, at least as a temporary measure, if I might > find some recordings on Youtube. So I searched a bit, and did find > something you might find of interest: > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY6dfvc2sgI2D8vBqWA3vULGg7aHe8Pz7 > > >> The Bath The Country Coll The Gun Have at thy Coat, Old Woman Irish Trot The London Gentlewoman (The Hemp-Dresser) The Saraband Skellemasago The Spanyard Tom Tinker From kab.conundrums at verizon.net Fri Feb 21 02:31:42 2014 From: kab.conundrums at verizon.net (Kim Barrett) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 02:31:42 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2a115e2f-01e8-4a9f-9b58-29cd58e0b23c@email.android.com> Message-ID: <21672C2E-C672-4FD2-B88E-DD1E8836ACF9@verizon.net> On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Yves wrote: > > I would really like to have slower versions of these three uncommon pieces from Playford. The recordings I use are in parentheses. > > Boat-Man (The New York Renaissance Band, Country Capers) > Kettle Drum (same) > The Merry Merry Milk Maids (same) > > Also would be nice to have... > > Gathering Peascods (same as above) > Goddesses (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > If All the World Were Paper (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) > Millisons Jegge (Wandering Hands, Shepheards Holyday) > New Boe Peep (Musica Subterranea, Incantare) > Newcastle (Bryn Gwlad Music Guild; Tape of Dance, Volume 3) > Sellengers Round (Ansteorran Dance Symposium A.S. XXVII) Some commercial / non-SCA recordings: Three other recordings of Kettle Drum, called Puck's Deceit on all three albums because there is a modern dance by that name to the tune: Bare Necessities, "New Shoots - New American Dances" Roguery, "Impropriety Volume 1" Foxfire, "The Introduction" The Boatman: Bare Necessities, "A Playford Ball: Historical Dances from England" Gathering Peascods: Belshazzar's Feast, "John Playford's Secret Ball" Goddesses: Belshazzar's Feast, "John Playford's Secret Ball" Foxfire, "The Introduction" Carrie Crompton & The Baroque Folk, "Princess Royal" (slow) Millison's Jegge: Foxfire, "The Introduction? (called Impropriety, for the modern dance to the same tune) Newcastle: Liz Donaldson, et al, "English Echoes" (two different recordings) Broadside Band, "Playford: English Country Dances" Most of these are available from CDSS (cdss.org), along with many more. Bare Necessities, Roguery, Foxfire, and Belshazzar's are all dance bands, and the listed albums are mostly intended for dancing, though generally with a more MECD sound. [Bare Necessities has recently produced a large number of dance CDs (mostly not SCA relevant), the CDS English Country Dance Collection. For a complete list, including links to samples, see http://www.cds-boston.org/ecdc.] In the interest of full disclosure, I know many of the musicians in the above listed bands, and I'm a long-time member of CDSS and CDS. From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com Sat Feb 22 08:36:04 2014 From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:36:04 -0500 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> Message-ID: Well, that was fast! Of course would require some chopping to repeat, but hey, might be useful still Dafydd? http://youtu.be/QoLI5U71mnA The Bath The Country Coll The Gun The Saraband Skellamesago The Spanyard Tom Tinker Let's hope this lord does join the SCA in the UK. :) Darius On 20 February 2014 17:29, David Learmonth wrote: > As a quick followup to my earlier message, when I subscribed to the > musician's youtube channel, he messaged me, and we got to chatting. I let > him know about the SCA. He is in the UK. > > He also asked about music to record, so I mentioned your list Dafydd. So > you may get multiple recordings. :) (since our SCAdians are likely to > work on them too). > > I figure more is better. Though I did mention to him about some of the > factors that make them less than optimal for our purposes (just because he > asked / admitted they might not be perfect for dancing). But I said that, > besides being nice to listen to, they still may end up being useful for > dancing, especially until we have our own recordings of them. > > (factors I mentioned were: periodness of arrangement and instruments > used. speed of music. repeat structure.) > > I just wanted to mention this, in case anyone else subscribes and happens > to get into discussion. :) > > Darius > > > On 20 February 2014 14:10, David Learmonth wrote: > >> Hey Dafydd, >> >> I was just curious to see, at least as a temporary measure, if I might >> find some recordings on Youtube. So I searched a bit, and did find >> something you might find of interest: >> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY6dfvc2sgI2D8vBqWA3vULGg7aHe8Pz7 >> >> >>> > The Bath > The Country Coll > The Gun > Have at thy Coat, Old Woman > Irish Trot > The London Gentlewoman (The Hemp-Dresser) > The Saraband > Skellemasago > The Spanyard > Tom Tinker > > From john.white at drexel.edu Sat Feb 22 11:39:50 2014 From: john.white at drexel.edu (White,John) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:39:50 +0000 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> , Message-ID: <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280EC8@MB4.drexel.edu> Thanks, Darius! I've downloaded the mp3 from his site, along with several others that had some other tunes I needed (such as a non-woodblock version of A la Mode de France!). I'll be splicing like crazy real soon! \\Dafydd C ________________________________________ From: David Learmonth Well, that was fast! Of course would require some chopping to repeat, but hey, might be useful still Dafydd? http://youtu.be/QoLI5U71mnA The Bath The Country Coll The Gun The Saraband Skellamesago The Spanyard Tom Tinker Let's hope this lord does join the SCA in the UK. :) Darius From john.white at drexel.edu Sat Feb 22 11:47:05 2014 From: john.white at drexel.edu (White,John) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:47:05 +0000 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Article for Dance Musicians In-Reply-To: References: <1392824084.12837.YahooMailNeo@web121804.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1392916560.37762.YahooMailNeo@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280426@MB4.drexel.edu> , Message-ID: <6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D221280FA4@MB4.drexel.edu> >________________________________________ >From: David Learmonth > >Well, that was fast! Of course would require some chopping to repeat, but hey, might be useful still Dafydd? Of course, much thanks must go to the musician, who responded in days with a product that is very useful ? \\Dafydd C From mlysett at yahoo.com Thu Feb 20 12:26:41 2014 From: mlysett at yahoo.com (Margaret Roe) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:26:41 -0000 Subject: [SCA-Dance] Re: Article for Dance Musicians Message-ID: <1392917197.62240.YahooMailNeo@web162504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Perronnelle, If I recall correctly (I?m at work, so I can?t go check), there is a lovely version for this dance on In Timely Measure Move: http://www.amazon.com/Timely-Measure-Queens-HaPenny-Consort/dp/B00G5X6XUM . ?Some of their other pieces are really hit or miss to how well they actually work (the group does ?modified? versions of some of these dances), but I think this piece was right. IHTH, Margaret ? THL Margherita Battistina (Margaret Roe) Dean of the School of European Dance, Pennsic 42 & 43 Chronicler and Web Minister, L'Academie Atlantienne de la Danse Deputy Chatelaine for the Shire of Spiaggia Levantina > > > > > As I've discovered this week: Contrapasso (in ruota). --Perronnelle