From johnbobmead at gmail.com  Sun May  5 15:57:06 2013
From: johnbobmead at gmail.com (johnbobmead)
Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 19:57:06 -0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] SCA Dance Facebook group
Message-ID: <km6dii+aff8@eGroups.com>

There's a new Facebook group for Renaissance dance, was highlighted on the official SCA fb page, http://www.facebook.com/groups/scadance/ in case anyone is interested.

Yours,

Ian Jameson
Blatha an Oir
An Tir


From rosina at pathcom.com  Mon May  6 11:35:16 2013
From: rosina at pathcom.com (rosina at pathcom.com)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 11:35:16 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Origin of SCA Trenchmore
Message-ID: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>

Unto SCAdance, greetings from Rosina,

I'm familiar with the 1653 version of Trenchmore, but have always seen 
Trenchmore done rather differently in the SCA. I presume it wandered in 
from non-SCA ECD, but am wondering if anyone has info on whose 
reconstruction it is, and upon which source it is actually based on.

In case there are variations, the version I've always seen is: Up a dbl 
+ back x2. Cast off to bottom + back up. Dip + dive. Cpl 1 arm R with 
own, arm left with other down the set. Start over with cpl 2 leading.

Rosina

From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com  Tue May  7 14:30:43 2013
From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 14:30:43 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Origin of SCA Trenchmore
In-Reply-To: <CADxf9vKGi-1r_rUq3Dd0UcFBQ6EqcPJ0zMzzGpgG6bJvy2HSHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>
	<CADxf9vKGi-1r_rUq3Dd0UcFBQ6EqcPJ0zMzzGpgG6bJvy2HSHA@mail.gmail.com>
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Bounced.  Here is my quick message again, for what it is worth.  :)


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:24 PM, David Learmonth <david.a.learmonth at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hey Gwommy, didn't Catriona mention introducing this dance once upon a
> time?  I'm not certain, and of course it may have been introduce on
> multiple occasions.   (I don't know if I have her email handy to ask her).
>
> Good luck on your quest Rosina!
>
> Darius
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, <rosina at pathcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Unto SCAdance, greetings from Rosina,
>>
>> I'm familiar with the 1653 version of Trenchmore, but have always seen
>> Trenchmore done rather differently in the SCA. I presume it wandered in
>> from non-SCA ECD, but am wondering if anyone has info on whose
>> reconstruction it is, and upon which source it is actually based on.
>>
>> In case there are variations, the version I've always seen is: Up a dbl
>> + back x2. Cast off to bottom + back up. Dip + dive. Cpl 1 arm R with
>> own, arm left with other down the set. Start over with cpl 2 leading.
>>
>> Rosina
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From charlene281 at gmail.com  Tue May  7 15:10:21 2013
From: charlene281 at gmail.com (Charlene Charette)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 14:10:21 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Origin of SCA Trenchmore
In-Reply-To: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>
References: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>
Message-ID: <CAHUFDpPoHDjAyPgSaVj1KxaP552WxrUcnk_je7TduYd1LyLZig@mail.gmail.com>

This one, like Half Hannikin, may be attributable to Millar. The SCA
version you note appears in both his books. He writes: "By 1564 [....]
Trenchmore was already a well-known dance. Surprisingly, its directions
were not published until 1721." This is obviously untrue. I checked up to
the 1709 edition (the latest I have access to) and the dance still has the
setting and arming figures in the second part. Does anyone have access to
the 1721 edition to check what it says?

--Perronnelle




On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:35 AM, <rosina at pathcom.com> wrote:

> Unto SCAdance, greetings from Rosina,
>
> I'm familiar with the 1653 version of Trenchmore, but have always seen
> Trenchmore done rather differently in the SCA. I presume it wandered in
> from non-SCA ECD, but am wondering if anyone has info on whose
> reconstruction it is, and upon which source it is actually based on.
>
> In case there are variations, the version I've always seen is: Up a dbl
> + back x2. Cast off to bottom + back up. Dip + dive. Cpl 1 arm R with
> own, arm left with other down the set. Start over with cpl 2 leading.
>
> Rosina
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From mhultin at mymts.net  Tue May  7 13:59:14 2013
From: mhultin at mymts.net (Monica Hultin)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 12:59:14 -0500
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Origin of SCA Trenchmore
In-Reply-To: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>
References: <20130506113516.ugdmade3as8cs8o0@easymail.pathcom.com>
Message-ID: <BLU174-DS25976747D99D88B65957EABABA0@phx.gbl>

It's been awhile, but the version I learned in the SCA was from the book 
Elizabethan English Country Dances by John Fitzhugh Millar.   My copy has 
gone AWOL, so I can't verify the instructions in it.

Monika

This is a copy from amazon.ca.

http://www.amazon.ca/Elizabethan-Country-Dances-Fitzhugh-Millar/dp/0934943001/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367949388&sr=1-1&keywords=0934943001



-----Original Message----- 
From: rosina at pathcom.com
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:35 AM
To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Origin of SCA Trenchmore

Unto SCAdance, greetings from Rosina,

I'm familiar with the 1653 version of Trenchmore, but have always seen
Trenchmore done rather differently in the SCA. I presume it wandered in
from non-SCA ECD, but am wondering if anyone has info on whose
reconstruction it is, and upon which source it is actually based on.

In case there are variations, the version I've always seen is: Up a dbl
+ back x2. Cast off to bottom + back up. Dip + dive. Cpl 1 arm R with
own, arm left with other down the set. Start over with cpl 2 leading.

Rosina
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From bgdeonna at hotmail.com  Mon May 27 10:35:16 2013
From: bgdeonna at hotmail.com (Beth Gurzler)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 14:35:16 +0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] kwdms is coming soon
Message-ID: <BLU173-W1708832EA7B0C892873B0EC5960@phx.gbl>

Hello all.
I am Deonna von Aachen, long time musician and dancer

I
 also happen to be the event steward for the Knowne World Dance and 
music Symposium happening in just 4 weeks time.  Not only will we have several  tracks of dance classes on Friday and Saturday, as well as dancing 
on Sunday, There are 2 tracks of classes for musicians, each day, 
opportunities to play for dance classes, open class time for jamming, 
master classes to attend with John Tyson and Renaissonics of Boston as 
well as the usual opportunities to dance or play for the balls.  
Open dancing on Thursday night  will start things off from 6:30-11 
Classes on Friday and Saturday run from 9-4:30 with dayboards each day. Final ball is Sunday afternoon.  
Lots of familiar stuff, lots of new stuff, contests, comedia performance, 
JUNE 1 IS SATURDAY - YIKES
The
 time to register for the event is now which you can do through ACCEPS, or  by  post.  IF you are  not from the US, and do not have a US bank , you may pre-register via e-mail, containing pertinent information (names, memb # etcl) to me or Sheldon through the website.   Funds will be collected at gate.  There is a 
significant discount if you do so by June 1.  Of course the big issue is
 housing in Saratoga Springs but I do have affordable space available 
that I need to fill.  Let me know ASAP

Note that gate on Thursday night is at the school on Hamilton street.  Gate on Fri and Sat is at UPH.  See the website for addresses and directions
We  are updating the website constantly 
and the actual class schedule should be up very soon.  See 
http://kwdms.org for all the details.  

Hope to see you soon
Deonna von Aachen
event steward, kwdms 		 	   		  

From aelkiss at gmail.com  Thu May 30 10:35:35 2013
From: aelkiss at gmail.com (Aaron Elkiss)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 10:35:35 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Musicians: Play for Dancers at Pennsic!
Message-ID: <CAL1Dq2GeVHK0hKPRbYMw8mKw1RDSuC7CNNeXEjYocjWUAKeSag@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Musicians & Dancers,

Information about opportunities for musicians to play for dancers at
Pennsic has been posted to the Pennsic Dance Web Site:

http://pennsicdance.aands.org/

Revisions to the Pennsic Pile for this year will be completed by July
1st. Please feel free to get in touch if you'd like an electronic copy
of last year's music.

Aaron Drummond
Pennsic Dance Musician Coordinator